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[–] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Leave standards to experts.

That's what everybody did at first. It gave us a different connector for each device. After a few decades, there are still competing standards. Either the experts are incompetent, or the business environment they're in doesn't incentivize single standards.

[–] itsmect@monero.town 5 points 1 year ago

This is the issue, you can squeeze more money out of your consumers if you lock them into an ecosystem an license every single 3rd party device.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works -5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Or, and go with me here, it's a non-issue? Like it's fine to have multiple standards for different uses?

All they did was standardize the shape of the connector. Not the voltage, power output, etc. So you'll still have multiple competing standards and it will be a bit more confusing as "not all USB chargers will be able to power your laptop."

[–] kalleboo@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I dunno about the SA law but the EU law mandates USB-PD support.

Of course they can't mandate the wattage level since every device will have different wattage needs, but I can use my $35 100W USB-PD charger with any USB device I have at home just fine

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works -4 points 1 year ago

What is the law solving then? You still have many chargers with different support for power, voltage, etc. You just have one "shape" now. And I'll still have multiple adapters since I'm not shelling out 240W prices to have a charger in my car for my phone.

It's just standardization for the sake of standardization.

[–] notapantsday@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When I'm travelling, I can bring one single charger to charge my laptop, my phone, my tablet, my wireless earbuds, my flashlight, my powerbank, my e-Reader and my bike pump.

In your world I would have to bring eight different chargers. That's a pretty big issue to me.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago

So we're just passing laws for convenience then?

In your world there are multiple operating systems. It's a pain for me so I think there should be only one.

[–] yA3xAKQMbq@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Or, it’s totally not a non-issue? Like, I remember the time when you had to carry around a fucking proprietary charger for every single fucking device?

Yeah, no shit, you can’t power your megaultragaminglaptop4000™ with a 5 V 500 mA charger. Whodathunk.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Like, I remember the time when you had to carry around a fucking proprietary charger for every single fucking device?

Oh yes - we refer to those days as "the dark days". I'm still scarred for life for having to have multiple chargers.

You can have "a preferred state" without "passing a law enforcing it." The world is marching towards USB as it is. Passing a law for this was stupid and useless.

[–] yA3xAKQMbq@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

🥱 Oh look, Mr Gotcha is still on it.

Honey, you were so close from realizing what utter bullshit you’re talking when you moved from „tHeY jUsT sTaNdArDiZeD a CoNnEcToR“ to „it’s a collection of standards!“.

Don’t cry, you can still use as many chargers as you want, that’s okay. You’re okay.

You said it yourself „leave standards to experts“. I suggest you do that and go outside and play with the other 3rd graders, mh?

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Honey, you were so close from realizing what utter bullshit you’re talking when you moved from „tHeY jUsT sTaNdArDiZeD a CoNnEcToR“ to „it’s a collection of standards!“

You realize USB has more than one protocol for power delivery right? In what way do you think those two statements are contradictory? And within those standards are a range of viable voltages and power outputs. Not every USB charger can deliver the power to a laptop. Most can't.

I don't want multiple standards - I'm just saying it's idiotic to pass a law requiring one connector.

The purported purpose of this law is to "reduce e-waste" and I believe it will do no such thing. 240W USB adapters are expensive so people will continue to buy the low-cost cables and chargers for, e.g. charging their phone on their desk at work.

[–] yA3xAKQMbq@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Look, there’s no need to repeat your incoherent drivel ad nauseam. Nobody cares what the fuck you think other people will do.

The only valuable thing you’ve said in the last days was, again, „leave standards to experts“.

Since you seem to be really slow on the uptake: you’re not one of them.

Now please go outside and play with the other children, okay?

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Is there anything funnier than the "nobody cares what you say but I'm going to spend a lot of time responding to you" reply?

And by "funny" I mean "pathetic".