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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Removed for genocide denial.

To be 100% clear here, the precise definition of a genocide has five criteria, it only takes ONE to be declared a genocide.

Israel's actions in Gaza meet ALL FIVE requirements.

https://iccforum.com/genocide-convention

(a) Killing members of the group;

(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;

(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;

(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;

(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

[–] xor@lemmy.blahaj.zone -2 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I do believe that Israel is committing genocide in Gaza, but you missed an important part of the definition from your source:

with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical (sic), racial or religions (sic) group

Doing one of the above actions alone isn't enough to be classified as genocide, it has to be done with systematic intent to destroy the group. That's the bit that's much harder to actually prove, because it requires having insider knowledge of Israel's military complex.

[–] johny@feddit.org 6 points 3 weeks ago

That or reading public statements from politicians, military officials and other public figures.

And observing the actions of Israel, what other intent can denying food and blowing up all hospitals have than extermination.

[–] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

In addition to JordanLund's sources, there are significantly more, both on intent and action

Genocide

On 26 January 2024, the ICJ said that it was plausible that Israel had breached the Genocide Convention. As an emergency measure, it ordered Israel ensure that its army refrained from genocidal acts against Palestinians.

The ICJ reported, as part of its decisions in March and May, that the situation in Gaza had deteriorated and that Israel had failed to abide by its order in January.

So, when we look at the actions taken, the dropping of thousands and thousands of bombs in a couple of days, including phosphorus bombs, as we heard, on one of the most densely populated areas around the world, together with these proclamations of intent, this indeed constitutes genocidal killing, which is the first act, according to the convention, of genocide. And Israel, I must say, is also perpetrating act number two and three — that is, causing serious bodily or mental harm, and creating condition designed to bring about the destruction of the group by cutting off water, food, supply of energy, bombing hospitals, ordering the fast evictions of hospitals, which the World Health Organization has declared to be, quote, “a death sentence.” So, we’re seeing the combination of genocidal acts with special intent. This is indeed a textbook case of genocide.

More than 800 scholars of international law and genocide have signed a public statement arguing that the Israeli military may be committing genocidal acts against Palestinians in the Gaza Strip as the total siege and relentless airstrikes continue to inflict devastation on the occupied territory.

An independent United Nations expert warned Monday that "Israel's genocidal violence risks leaking out of Gaza and into the occupied Palestinian territory as a whole" as Western governments, corporations, and other institutions keep up their support for the Israeli military, which stands accused of grave war crimes in the Gaza Strip and West Bank.

Our documentation encompasses over 500 incitements of violence and genocidal incitement, appearing in the forms of social media posts, television interviews, and official statements from Israeli politicians, army personnel, journalists, and other influential personalities.

Others: AP News, Time, Reuters, Vox, CBC

Deliberate Attacks on Civilians

Israel deliberately targets civilian areas. From in general with the Dahiya Doctrine to multiple systems deployed in Gaza to do so:

Israel also targets Israeli Soldiers and Civilians to prevent them being leveraged as hostages, known as the Hannibal Directive. Which was also used on Oct 7th.