Guy won't move his bikes indoors permanently because he's broke, has no room and it's not a disability issue. Two reasonable people end up becoming bad neighbours | Who do you side with? (libreddit.projectsegfau.lt)

submitted 5 days ago by REgon@hexbear.net to c/urbanism@hexbear.net

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I posted this in urbanism because I think it can be an offset for a nice discussion about living together in apartment blocks and the cramped conditions that arise, especially in sub-par block. Part of urbanism is urban living and discussions about how to tackle issues such as these.

Of course none of this would be an issue with good infrastructure, but that's something that can always be said. If everything was lollypops and gumdrops and so on.

I like the thread because both people start off reasonable and courteous and then end up calling each other names. I dislike it because, it being reddit, it just becomes a dogpile instead.

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[-] PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS@hexbear.net 33 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Honestly I have to go with OP if I'm taking a side, as an NYC apartment dweller myself. Like yeah, you have to make compromises and get along with your neighbors etc, but this guy has just permanently annexed the hallway. It's a fire hazard and an all around dick move. Part of living with limited space is looking the other way when people fudge the rules, sure, but the other part is not taking more than your share of the common space. At the very least this guy has inconvenienced everyone else on his floor (assuming it's an elevator building) or everyone living above him (if it's a walk up)

Maybe it's my bias as a pedestrian, but cyclists can be nearly as entitled and dangerous as a motorist to people on foot. The number of times I've almost gotten run over by cyclists blowing through red lights is uncountable. And if my neighbor was like actually it's my inalienable right to block the hallways with my bikes, I would not like that one bit

[-] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 3 days ago

but cyclists can be nearly as entitled and dangerous as a motorist to people on foot

I walked in front of a cyclist once (on accident) and we both fell to the ground. I had a bruise where the bike hit me, but the embarrassment hurt far more than the bike. My friend was hit by an SUV and his parents buried him at 19.

Please don't lie about bikes being as dangerous as cars. Yes, some cyclists are assholes (same as some pedestrians), but lying about how dangerous they are helps no one.

[-] PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS@hexbear.net 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I didn't think I needed to explain that getting hit by a car is more injurious than getting hit by a bike, but sure

But also cars, at least where I live are not ignoring all traffic laws while I'm trying to cross the street so a bike hitting me is much more likely

[-] REgon@hexbear.net 11 points 5 days ago

but this guy has just permanently annexed the hallway.

Yeah, I'm split about it. On the one hand, that is what he's done, but on the other it sounds like it's an arrangement that everyone knows of and has been cool with for two years. I guess it's a sweet deal he has, but it doesn't seem like he has ownership over it.

Maybe it's my bias as a pedestrian, but cyclists can be nearly as entitled and dangerous as a motorist to people on foot The number of times I've almost gotten run over by cyclists blowing through red lights is uncountable.

Funny, I think the same of pedestrians. The amount of times people have tried to argue with me about how they should be allowed to walk on the bike path or how it's actually me who should hold back for them when they step out onto it, is crazy. The amount of times I've had to suddenly veer onto the road due to pedestrians being entitled/oblivious is also wild. Like it's not something I even register anymore.

[-] PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS@hexbear.net 24 points 5 days ago

Ideally pedestrians and cyclists put aside their grievances and team up to kill their common enemy, the motorist

[-] REgon@hexbear.net 16 points 5 days ago

Like anarchists and communists we should be able to save our grievances for after the revolution and only then do you get sent to reeducation camps (forced to watch tour de france 24/7)