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An Israeli attack on Beit Lahiya, a town in northern Gaza, killed at least 73 Palestinians on Saturday evening, according to the enclave's government media office.

More than 100 others were wounded and several people missing.

Israeli air strikes targeted a multi-floor building and damaged a number of nearby houses, medics in the Gaza Strip reported.

The government media office said that Israeli forces had bombed overcrowded residential areas in Beit Lahiya, adding that women and children were amongst the casualties.

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[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I don't think its a good idea to compare it to the holocaust.

Genocide takes many different forms. Its still a genocide even if the people aren't being exterminated by toxic gas and their remains burned in ovens.

Gaza is still a concentration camp even if they're not wearing prison clothes and forced to work for the Israeli State.

Genocides take many different forms, but if you call this a Holocaust then you're just falling into a Hasbara trap that's very easy to prove you wrong.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They've been systematically eliminating Gazans at this point. Concentrating them in camps and them bombing the camps. Setting fire to them with incendiary bombs. They've had snipers shoot children. They've been systematically and indiscriminately killing everyone. They've almost wiped out the entire population of Gaza.

What makes that different from a Holocaust?

According to History.com:

The Holocaust was the state-sponsored persecution and mass murder of millions of European Jews, Romani people, the intellectually disabled, political dissidents and homosexuals by the German Nazi regime between 1933 and 1945. The word “holocaust,” from the Greek words “holos” (whole) and “kaustos” (burned), was historically used to describe a sacrificial offering burned on an altar.

After years of Nazi rule in Germany, dictator Adolf Hitler’s “Final Solution”—now known as the Holocaust—came to fruition during World War II, with mass killing centers in concentration camps. About six million Jews and some five million others, targeted for racial, political, ideological and behavioral reasons, died in the Holocaust—more than one million of those who perished were children.

What's happening right now is no different from that. Anyone that's Arab in the region has faced state-sponsered persecution and mass murder. Israel is burning everything down from Gaza to the West Bank to Lebanon and it'll keep going beyond those borders into Syria and even Iraq and Saudi Arabia.

That's their "final solution". It's to kill everyone in those region or get rid of them one way or another. They're experimenting how far they can push the limits of their international support.

If you think I'm wrong, I'd like to hear your arguments.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What you're describing is a genocide. Its a genocide that's very different from the holocaust.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm asking you to explain to me what is so different from what is happening in Gaza to a Holocaust.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

As I said above, they're not wearing the same clothing made of black and white stripes. They're not doing slave labor. They're not being gassed with the same chemicals. They're not being burned in ovens.

Its a genocide with different mechanisms of extermination. The 2013 Gaza Genocide is very different from the Rwandan Genocide, just as the 2013 Gaza Genocide is very different from the Holocaust.

[–] Naryn@lemmy.world -5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Gaza is still a concentration camp even if they're not wearing prison clothes and forced to work for the Israeli State.

It's not a concentration camp, it's a hostile foreign territory that carries on launching hundreds of rockets into Israel.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 1 points 2 months ago

Gaza has a right to defend itself