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[-] AcidSmiley@hexbear.net 65 points 6 days ago

So, i've tried looking up what the situation is actually like for trans people in Israel because i was aware that Israel does not allow same sex marriages, which made me wonder if it would be possible for Briana to at least get legally recognized as a woman so she could marry her husband (if they both convert, ofc - there simply is no secular marriage in Israel. That's why they do not allow interfaith or gay marriage). And oh boy, is it hard to find something about trans rights in Israel that goes into more depth than "legal recognition, but it's complicated". Turns out it is actually incredibly shitty:

https://upr-info.org/sites/default/files/documents/2018-01/js6_upr29_isr_e_main.pdf

To summarize the trans related part of that report:

Up until 2016, bottom surgery was a requirement for legal recognition. BTW, accessing bottom surgery through public health care is at the same time made almost impossible "due to several regulatory failures in this domain". If you do not get bottom surgery, you have to get judged by a "comittee" and get a ton of transmedicalist bullshit hurled at you. The comittee also acts completely intransparent, does not answer to anybody, tells nobody what their guidelines for determining if an applicant should be recognized as their gender are, has the right to question anybody you know, and is also in charge of determining if you are allowed to receive gender affirming care. Which it makes conditional on getting bottom surgery. Which you then can't get even if you want to. Even seeing the committee takes about 3-5 years on average.

[-] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 26 points 6 days ago

Doesn't TERF Island allow trans people to get married? And even recognizes their gender legally? I'm flabbergasted. Bamboozled, even. Utterly confused. Completely surprised the fascist death cult ethno state has worse rights for LGBTQ+ people than some of the most bigoted countries on the planet.

[-] ComradeMonotreme@hexbear.net 21 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

The TERF island thing is mainly because there is a small but very vocal bipartisan TERF media class that has been allowed to dominate the narrative. Whenever they poll people in the UK they are generally less transphobic than say the USA. And as far as treatments go the UK actually has or had "good" gender care in the sense it has free publicly funded gender clinics something that most countries simply do not have, but because they have been subjected to this wave of transphobia, as well as crippling austerity in general, they have absurdly long waiting lines, while being staffed with TERFS and trans-medicalists at various levels.

Compared to say Australia, where transphobia is still thankfully mostly a crank fringe thing (still definitely present), but in most states outside of some public hospitals having paediatric gender clinics for children, all adult transgender care is done by private clinics with doctors who has a special interest in gender care and you basically have to get private insurance for gender affirming surgery or travel. So you get better care but there can be a significant financial barrier.

[-] combat_brandonism@hexbear.net 12 points 6 days ago

And even recognizes their gender legally?

Self-ID or whatever it's called has been pushed for on that God forsaken rock but unsurprisingly the TERF lobby has blocked it afaik

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