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Why are so many Pro-Palestine (I am pro-Palestine and anti-genocide) Americans refusing to vote for Harris due to her stance on Israel? (discuss.tchncs.de)

submitted 1 month ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) by dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

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As the title states I am confused on this matter. The way I see it, the USA has a two party system and in the next few weeks they’re either going to have Trump or Harris as president, come inauguration day. With this in mind doesn’t it make sense to vote for the person least likely to escalate the situation even more.

Giving your vote to an independent or worse not voting at all, just gives more of a chance for Trump to win the election and then who knows what crazy stuff he will allow, or encourage, Israel to get away with.

I really don’t get the logic. As sure nobody wants to vote for a party allowing these heinous crimes to be committed, but given you’re getting one of them shouldn’t you be voting for the one that will be the least horrible of the two.

Please don’t come at me with pro-Israeli rhetoric as this isn’t the post for that, I’m asking about why people would make such choices and I’m not up for debate on the Middle East, on this post, you can DM me for that.

Edit: Bedtime here now so will respond to incoming comments in the morning, love starting the day with an inbox full 😊.

Edit 2: This blew up, it’s a little overwhelming right now but I do intent on replying to everybody that took the time to comment. Just need to get in the right headspace.

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[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Some people think the trolley problem is just a funny template.

[–] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Some people think it's the height of political thought and a sufficient salve for supporting genocide.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works -3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Was that why people couldn't vote for Hillary?

Or Kerry?

Or Gore?

It's always something with people's excuses for letting things get worse and feeling smug about it. This is worse than usual - but the system hasn't changed, and your inaction still makes things worse. Y'think open American fascism is gonna make anything better?

[–] basmati@lemmus.org 9 points 1 month ago

Gore won the popular vote and the electoral college. Kerry wasn't voted for because more than 80% of democrats fully supported the w bush admin.

Clinton was a genocidal monster, as she has always been.

We e had open American fascism since the 1980s, we just invested tens of billions into things like project mockingbird to eliminate realization amongst most the population.

[–] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago

Your questions don't make sense.

Do you think that the people overinvested in trolley problem electoral logic vote shaming are the ones that didn't vote for Hillary? You seem to be confused about who gets gung-ho about that kind of stuff.

I get the sense that you were just searching for phrases you feel comfortable with but didn't know how to put them together in any kind of coherent way.