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Why are so many Pro-Palestine (I am pro-Palestine and anti-genocide) Americans refusing to vote for Harris due to her stance on Israel? (discuss.tchncs.de)

submitted 3 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) by dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

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As the title states I am confused on this matter. The way I see it, the USA has a two party system and in the next few weeks they’re either going to have Trump or Harris as president, come inauguration day. With this in mind doesn’t it make sense to vote for the person least likely to escalate the situation even more.

Giving your vote to an independent or worse not voting at all, just gives more of a chance for Trump to win the election and then who knows what crazy stuff he will allow, or encourage, Israel to get away with.

I really don’t get the logic. As sure nobody wants to vote for a party allowing these heinous crimes to be committed, but given you’re getting one of them shouldn’t you be voting for the one that will be the least horrible of the two.

Please don’t come at me with pro-Israeli rhetoric as this isn’t the post for that, I’m asking about why people would make such choices and I’m not up for debate on the Middle East, on this post, you can DM me for that.

Edit: Bedtime here now so will respond to incoming comments in the morning, love starting the day with an inbox full 😊.

Edit 2: This blew up, it’s a little overwhelming right now but I do intent on replying to everybody that took the time to comment. Just need to get in the right headspace.

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[–] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 14 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The comprador government of the West Bank is just that, compradors. You should care about the people who live under a comprador government, yes.

The government of Gaza is led by those taking direct militant action against their genocidal settler colonial invaders. They fight and die alongside their people.

[+] Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

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[–] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 22 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I never said I didn't care. In fact I care very much.

From Merriam Webster: "one" example: "you never know what will happen"

Hamas is a terrorist organization. Lets not pretend that they're some force of good.

Hamas is a Palestinian resistance organization against apartheid settlers that routinely use and used extensive terrorism. While the Zionist entity bombs residential blocks, schools, and refugee camps, the axis of resistance, which includes Hamas, focus on military targets and building if leverage for their own liberation.

The term "terrorist" is used selectively and in a racist way. When the Western Imperialists like a resistance organization they call them freedom fighters. When they dislike them, they get called terrorists. The ANC, including Mandela, were similarly labelled terrorists in their own fight against apartheid. Similarly, the Americans supported apartheid in South Africa and its mainstream political adherents gladly adopted their white supremacist framing.

[–] azulavoir@sh.itjust.works -5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

In conclusion, there are two terrorist groups fighting, and the civilians of both groups are suffering for it.

[–] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 weeks ago

Sorry you're afraid to engage with what I said. You'll get the courage of your convictions someday. Might want to stop sharing your onions until then, sport.