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Something is wrong with this split-screen picture. On one side, former president Donald Trump rants about mass deportations and claims to have stopped "wars with France," after being described by his longest-serving White House chief of staff as a literal fascist. On the other side, commentators debate whether Vice President Kamala Harris performed well enough at a CNN town hall to "close the deal."

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Let’s review: First, Harris was criticized for not doing enough interviews — so she did multiple interviews, including with nontraditional media. She was criticized for not doing hostile interviews — so she went toe to toe with Bret Baier of Fox News. She was criticized as being comfortable only at scripted rallies — so she did unscripted events, such as the town hall on Wednesday. Along the way, she wiped the floor with Trump during their one televised debate.

Trump, meanwhile, stands before his MAGA crowds and spews nonstop lies, ominous threats, impossible promises and utter gibberish. His rhetoric is dismissed, or looked past, without first being interrogated.

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[–] b_n@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Sure. I totally understand that, but the stakes are different during an election in a system which at this very moment cannot and will not change. It serves to disenfranchise people.

You can and should campaign about this issue. At the same time, the stakes at present are not about whether the US will exit Israel or not. No amount of disapproval will change that fact, so why not focus on the things that will change, and come back to this later?

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

There's no "coming back to this later". People are being slaughtered as we speak. Later is too late. If we swallow this, then we've lost everything.

[–] davidagain@lemmy.world -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

How is letting Donald "finish them" "best king of Israel" "Biden is trying to hold Netanyahu back, he should do the opposite" Trump (who admits he is on the phone almost daily convincing Netanyahu NOT TO CEASEFIRE) not going to be WORSE for Gaza.

If you even gave the tiniest of real shits about the Palestinian people, you would drop your sham "voter purity" nonsense and campaign as hard as you could for the one person who can possibly keep him from becoming commander in chief at a time when we really need an emotionally mature grown up in the White House: Kamala Harris.

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They are being finished now. Biden is not doing anything to "hold Netanyahu back". Calling me a political purist for condemning unmitigated support of genocide is disgusting. If you don't want Trump to win, don't come at me about it-- come at the fucking democrat leadership who apparently care more about perpetuating atrocities in Gaza than winning the election.

[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Trump is spending time and effort unravelling whose ceasefire deal? Biden's.

So like a true trump supporter, you blame the democrats for what the republicans are doing.

I didn't call you a political purist. You're really not. I called out your sham "voter purity" where you pretend to care about Gaza and then advocate for lunatic geriatric genocidal trump to win.

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I know it makes you feel better to imagine I'm a Trump supporter, so go right ahead. Biden can say the word "ceasefire" all he wants, but it does not mean a fucking thing if he remains absolutely unwavering in his material support for the ongoing genocide. What possible reason does Netanyahu have for stopping the slaughter? Biden pretends to disapprove slightly? What Trump does or doesn't talk to Netanyahu about is irrelevant.

[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's not irrelevant. He's a hair's breadth from becoming commander in chief and then it won't be 10% or 20% of Palestinians killed, it'll be all of them. Trump really is that lunatic and that genicodal. Next he'll deport or put into camps all the Muslims in America. He'll not murder them in the street, he has his friend Netanyahu to do that, the people who he promised to shoot are the leftists.

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Netanyahu is not feeling restrained in the least by Biden. He is murdering Palestinians at the rate he is willing and able to murder them. Trump won't wring his hands over it the dems occasionally pretend to do, but unlimited military and political support is already unlimited.

[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

Netanyahu is not feeling restrained in the least by Biden.

No. If he was, he wouldn't be doing the genocide thing.

He's feeling encouraged by geriatric genocidal Trump.

Presumably by your logic, individual gun shop owners are responsible for the all the deaths of children in school shootings in the USA, so you want to select as many Democrats as possible to stop the Republicans from blocking gun controls.