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[-] lennybird@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago

It's because there is a large, internally-polled segment of the Pennsylvania electorate who are Jewish and sympathetic to Israel.

Harris can't afford to not court them.

I have no doubt she vehemently dislikes Bibi and would wish to cut aid.

[-] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 day ago

Not only that, but AIPAC is a serious force that has demonstrated their willingness to aggressively smear every candidate who speaks out against Israel; they've already done this for a number of races.

Harris is basically trapped here. The best thing she can do is stay vague until after the election, when she might actually have the power to do something about it. No one on Palestine's side has anything to gain from her losing votes over it.

[-] billwashere@lemmy.world 8 points 23 hours ago

Yeah this is basically my thoughts as well. Stuck between Iraq and a hard place (I had to do the Hot Shots joke here... too fitting).

But seriously, AIPAC has way too much power in American politics. And your comment about Palestine is spot on. She is walking a very thin line, but this is the nature of politics and nuance. That orange fucker has no clue about any of this.

[-] Samvega@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 day ago

It’s because there is a large, internally-polled segment of the Pennsylvania electorate who are Jewish and sympathetic to Israel.

Harris can’t afford to not court them.

I have no doubt she vehemently dislikes Bibi and would wish to cut aid.

I hope you are right. But, without evidence (if there is any, please share it), this might be wishful thinking. You might just be a more moral person than Harris. I might be being extremely unfair, but it doesn't seem impossible for an elected official to be willing to sacrifice the lives of innocent people in a country without American voters to gain power.

[-] lennybird@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I think there have been some "leaked" info to reputable journalists how both Biden and Harris pretty much despise Bibi at this point. I think if you look at it in the aggregate in how they pushed for the ceasefire (as opposed to Trump speaking with Bibi to actively undermine it), in her comments after meeting with Bibi shortly after becoming the presumed nominee following Biden stepping down — there is a clear tonal change from, say, 6-months-ago even. So yeah, I think her hands are pretty well tied.

Either way, the reality any sane person can understand is that there are much better odds we see movement from Harris than we do from Trump.

[-] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 4 points 21 hours ago

And everyone conveniently forgets that Biden did try to stop aid to Israel earlier this year. Congress blocked it. Is he trying hard enough? No probably not (I don't claim to be an expert in middle east geopolitics, it is possible that the situation is an even more thoroughly fucked Gordian knot than it appears), but he did try. And the alternative this November thinks what he is trying is "too tough" on Bibi.

[-] Samvega@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 day ago

Either way, the reality any sane person can understand is that there are much better odds we see movement from Harris than we do from Trump.

I completely agree with that. I admit to being impatient for change now, because innocent people are dying now. It is sad that elections (and electorates) get in the way of such important moral principles.

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