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submitted 6 days ago by bishbosh@lemm.ee to c/fediverse@lemmy.world

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[-] Kalkaline@leminal.space 13 points 6 days ago

I'd use Matrix but the last time I jumped on all the chats were dead and the ones I had joined had all been spammed with CSAM.

[-] halm@leminal.space 15 points 5 days ago

Yeah, "Matrix as IRC" with general interest rooms is an unmonitored cesspool. "Matrix as IM" for staying in touch with mates is doing just fine.

[-] asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

But then what's the benefit to Signal? Just that it's decentralized?

[-] asap@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

You can't know with certainty on Signal that the client and the server are actually keeping your messages encrypted at rest, you have to trust them.

With Matrix, if you self host, you are the one in control.

[-] mox@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

You can’t know with certainty on Signal that the client and the server are actually keeping your messages encrypted at rest, you have to trust them.

This is untrue. By design, messages are never decrypted on servers when end-to-end encryption is in use. They would have to break the encryption first, because they don't have the keys.

[-] asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago

Isn't Signal E2E encrypted? How would it be able to decrypt them?

[-] comfy@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 days ago

I assume you also have to trust the servers which the accounts you're messaging are stored on. (Although there are real situations where all users will be on the same server, where this is obviously a great benefit.)