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[–] beepnoise@piefed.social 64 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

This isn't the first time they've pushed an update which crashes PCs.

IIRC, the development/testing is done on Windows under VMs rather than a sample of real world hardware, so it's like "well yeah, duh, no wonder why you keep releasing updates that crash & freeze end users machines"

Between shit like this, Crowdstrike, and Microsoft Recall I wonder why anyone even bothers with Windows anymore. I have both Mac and Linux (both which I love equally). Both of them don't seem to have anywhere near these levels of issues - Macs I would hope not given the eye-watering amount I've spent on it, and Linux I could be forgiven if it did give me hassle, but no.

[–] Magister@lemmy.world 22 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

the development/testing is done on Windows under VMs rather than a sample of real world hardware

I highly doubt it, seriously, I don't think they test update some VMs and say "that's good", there's thousands and thousands people working at MS, I don't know how many on win11 but certainly a few hundreds, I doubt none of them install the upgrade on real hardware to test.

[–] superkret@feddit.org 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I work with all sorts of Microsoft products daily.
And I'd be really surprised if a sane, sapient person used or tested their products in any way before they're pushed out.
Cause then there just wouldn't be any explanation for what the fuck they're currently doing.

[–] Infernal_pizza@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

A couple of years ago they pushed out an update for the enterprise version of Windows Defender that deleted every single program shortcut from the start menu and desktop on every single device. There’s no way that was tested at all

[–] blargbluuk@sh.itjust.works 15 points 3 weeks ago

Between shit like this, Crowdstrike, and Microsoft Recall I wonder why anyone even bothers with Windows anymore

Out of necessity most likely, sometimes you either have no alternatives for proprietary software on Linux, or it's extremely cumbersome to get and maintain such software on Linux.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

the development/testing is done on Windows under VMs rather than a sample of real world hardware

And yet there's a recent update that keeps killing my Windows VMs. They'll run for a while then one day they install the update and won't boot again. It really feels like MS have lost control of Windows testing these days.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 weeks ago

Not as if updates that break things aren't a thing on Linux...

[–] CriticalMiss@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

Between shit like this, Crowdstrike, and Microsoft Recall I wonder why anyone even bothers with Windows anymore.

It’s mostly a habit. I’m tech savvy I can even work on BSDs if there’s a necessity but the finance and legal teams at my workplace lose their mind whenever a button changes its place in an app update.

So we’re 400 macOS machines and chugging the remaining Windows users who won’t let go. Wish I could manage a single system only.

Between shit like this, Crowdstrike, and Microsoft Recall I wonder why anyone even bothers with Windows anymore.

Or think about it differently. People hate Linux and Mac OS so much that they'd rather deal with this than deal with them.