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I'm sorry some posts are being removed from this community. It is the actions of the Lemmy blahaj zone admins. There's nothing we can do to prevent this. I suggest changing your instance to a better one.

Update: Blahaj blocked NCD

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[–] nuke@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Removed post https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/4336208

Removed post https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/11381339

Removed post https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/11419938

Removed post https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/16644488

Oh and instead of removing the post that violated your rules, you banned the person who submits the most content to NCD

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 37 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Nuke, not to be a dick, but did you talk to Ada before making this post? Because it sounds like there might be some miscommunication here.

[–] ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The first link isn't removed and the second link references Pepe. The third link is the same link as your first link

Oh and instead of removing the post that violated your rules,

Anyone that posts bigotry gets instance banned.

I have no idea about NCD. I don't use it, I have no idea who posts in it, and it doesn't come in to it. Anyone that posts bigotry gets instance banned, and your most active poster, posted bigotry.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

and the second link references Pepe

... wait, is that really enough to justify removal?

[–] ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It is when I'd just removed another post by the same user, conflating palestinians and hamas, blaming palestinians for their own genocide

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ah. I thought you meant there was a general rule against Pepe.

[–] ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Pepe is a red flag. Not enough to ban outright with no other context, but when posted by a user who is posting bigotry elsewhere, it warrants a removal

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I understand that point of view, definitely. Just wanted to make sure I didn't need to be checking my meme folders carefully before posting on 196, not that I have many Pepe memes lol.

[–] derek@infosec.pub 9 points 1 week ago

I'm not associated with anyone in this thread or the situation being discussed. I'm interested how we understand and use cultural signals. Here's some Pepe detail for the similarly curious:

The alt-right got wise to new media in the 2010s. They started meme-washing their hate mongering and trying to normalize coded hate speech in internet culture using Pepe memes and other popular formats. It snowballed and the Pepe meme = Nazi user association is a product of lasting trends from that time. It's similar to clocking someone for wearing straight-laced Doc Martens or khakis and a white polo.

For those in the know one of those items is a small red flag. The wearer could be completely ignorant that these are known dog whistles/identifiers for members of hate groups. If someone is wearing a lot of small red flags then it's less likely the wearer is accidentally serving white supremacist. That's the point of stealing and manufacturing these kinds of symbols though: most people don't know they exist or what they intend to mean so the user can feign ignorance with plausible deniability. They're the inverse of modern progressive advocacy symbols. Wearers can hide in plain sight with just enough Nazi showing that other insiders see them. Pride icons for cowards.

The artist who created Pepe has publicly denounced the character's use as a hate symbol and regressivist propaganda tool. Whether or not a community or individual "liberates" Pepe from the prison CHUDs built is up to them.

For what it's worth: I lean toward liberate most of the time (fight against the thieving bigots) but in this situation, even given a permissive setting, adding "posts Pepe" as a mark against is sensible. It's clear the user is either intentionally pushing hate propaganda or else under enough alt-right influence that their intentions aren't relevant to the evaluation.

[–] nuke@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

The first link isn't removed

From the modlog: " Removed Post Why would the terrorists lie? 😭 reason: Violates server rule #7"

It has since been restored. Your own modlog shows its removal https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/modlog/4573?page=1&actionType=ModRemovePost

the second link references Pepe.

Is this real life?

The third link is the same link as your first link

Fixed

[–] ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

reason: Violates server rule #7"

lemmy.blahaj.zone doesn't have a "server rule 7". The removal that you're referring to was made by a lemmy.world admin and has nothing to do with blahaj.zone.

Fixed

Your third link now links to the meme that got CDRMITTENS banned from lemmy.blahaj.zone. This meme breaks your own community rules, and conflates Palestinians with Hamas. It's outright bigotry