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[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] GarlicToast@programming.dev -3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Thorough investigation takes time.

https://news.un.org/en/story/2024/08/1152841

Till August the UN found that nine had to be fired. By their next report we will see more double dippers.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

“However, one thing I'd like to point out is that since information used by Israeli officials to support the allegations have remained in Israeli custody, OIOS was not able to independently authenticate most of the information provided to it,” he noted.

With respect to the remaining nine cases, the evidence obtained by OIOS indicated that the UNRWA staff members MAY have been involved in the 7 October attacks.

Would take less time if Israel provided any evidence for its claims. UNRWA cannot even ascertain if these allegations are true,

[–] GarlicToast@programming.dev -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The word may will be used for any evidence that is not strong as said UNRWA employees bursting into the OIOS armed with guns, marked with Hamas headband and shouting slogans. Even if they have pay slips from Hamas or video evidence they will use the word may. It's a common usage in formal text. But don't trust me, open scientific papers from high impact journals. You will find the word 'may' being used in a similar fasion.

As for evidence from Israel, it goes down to he-said. As Israel claims they provided evidence[0]. As both sides have interest to lie, I don't believe any of them.

It will take a lot of time for a clearer picture to emerge. But in the meantime you can collect puzzle pieces by your self. For example, Hamas' announcement on the death of head of operations in Lebanon [1] raised a familiar name! The beloved school manager that UNRWA suspended [2]

0 - https://govextra.gov.il/unrwa/unrwa/ 1 - https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/sep/30/first-thing-hamas-says-israeli-airstrike-has-killed-head-of-its-operation-in-lebanon 2 - https://unwatch.org/fatah-silent-as-hamas-union-chief-suspended-by-unrwa/

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm not going to bother with the Israeli government link. And UNWatch is funded by Israel so same thing for that.

But I did I click the Guardian link which led to https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2024/sep/30/israel-attacks-live-blog-lebanon-yemen-hamas-hezbollah-news-updates-middle-east-crisis?filterKeyEvents=false&page=with%3Ablock-66fa3c0f8f08441851818975#block-66fa3c0f8f08441851818975.

But that does not cite where Hamas said it either.

[–] GarlicToast@programming.dev 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't trust al mayadeen, as they are Hizzbulah mouthpiece. But they will not spread fake news to support Israel.

https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/hamas-mourns-leader-fateh-sharif-assassinated-by--israel--in

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Thank you for bringing receipts. I had not found the Almaydeen article.

I still wonder where the quote comes from as even Almaydeen does not attribute it. But they are indeed a more credible source on this.

[–] GarlicToast@programming.dev 2 points 1 week ago

I assume, but don't know, that Hamas has a spokesperson that wrote it, and sent it to news agencies.