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Progressives gear up for their first big fight if Harris wins: Protecting Lina Khan
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Progressives need to start finding a primary challenger for 2028 as soon as the polls close. Democrats will feel no leftward pressure otherwise and we'll be unprepared if we wait.
We were frankly cheated out of a primary this year. The last primary without a preordained winner was 2008. We cannot let this become any more normal than it already has.
Yeah, Hillary "the annointed" went over swell and the DNC has apparently learned exactly zip from the experience. They're never going to serve the interests of people, only of Capital.
Agreed, which is why progressives need to start as early as possible.
lol, with what leverage?
Hence why they need to get a primary candidate early. If you can think of some other way to exert pressure, I'm all ears.
First you have to figure out what's going to prevent the DNC from simply saying, "nuh uh."
To having primaries? I mean sure, if they want to go completely mask off and stop pretending to be a democratic anything.
It sounds like you don't yet understand that the DNC has full authority to determine who is allowed to percolate to Party designated positions. This is why when the DNC kneecapped Bernie Sanders, the courts said,"nah it's a private party- they can do as they please."
So, my point- if progressives did find a candidate to champion, there would be nothing preventing the DNC from simply saying, "no."
You got a better idea? Because I don't think the even the DNC is that eager to throw an entire wing of their party away.
I do not share your optimism.
Again, if you have a better idea, let's hear it.
My guy, you're advocating for tilting at windmills as though more effort will solve this. It's a futile, burnout strategy.
At the minimum, ranked choice voting needs to be put in place, or we will forever be betwixt the same rocks and hard places.
Second, a two-party system is, in itself, a failure. Progressives will never enact enough leverage from within the DNC's grasp; they will need to form a whole new party.
Third, stop trying to get people to pour their energy into "working harder not smarter." Voting is not enough; the votes have to be meaningful to a larger strategy.
Fourth, expect all of these efforts to fail until the legal loopholes allowing Corporate donations and PACs, SuperPACs, and dark money are slammed shut.
Fifth, racism is still a core component of the cultural uphill battle faced by any/all progressive candidates. You CAN apply your individual efforts there.
Sixth, reinstate the Fairness Doctrine, and supercharge it for modern times.
Ranked Choice Voting is a pipe dream with no realistic plan for implementation, particularly in states that don't allow for referenda. Incumbent politicians aren't going to vote for something that jeopardizes their continued incumbency. And that's at best. At worst, it's another in a long list of milestones that centrists present, after which they totally promise that progressives' concerns will be addressed and they won't just come up with another milestone.
The rest of your comment has RCV as a prerequisite.
I love how "switching the incumbent is traditionally suicidal but it may work this time; so let's try to fail next time" is how the conservative moles try to influence the next election.
When are you guys going to start calling yourselves Marxists/Communists, instead of hiding behind some newspeak label?
Because different folks define those differently.
A democratic socialist is very different from what most people think of when they hear communist.
Also I'm very left leaning but still like some aspects of capitalism. It just needs to be regulated or else monopolies eat everything and turn capitalism into feudalism.
In the US, there are still a lot from McCarthy-era sentiment and "Communist" is a pejorative within the general population. For instance, The Communist Control Act of 1954 is still on the books. Though it has issues as a law for being really vague, and hasn't been used seriously against leftist organizing on account of that, it nonetheless remains and has never been outright challenged to the Supreme Court of the United States. Either way, it had a chilling effect, and was pretty successful as part of the US's broader campaign to demonize communism and communist organizing.
Because of the way "Communism" and "Marxism" are used within US press and mainstream politics (especially by the Republican party), the average voter is conditioned to view them as bad words accordingly. The Democratic party, trying to court "moderate" voters within the political landscape here, all but refuses to touch those words with a 10-foot pole. It's not part of their brand (and not part of their policy either, not by any stretch of the imagination).
Progressivism in my view is an umbrella term, but still pretty linked with liberalism as a movement in the sense that it's mostly reformist, and acts a subgroup within the Democratic party. Most "Progressive" candidates for US political office are SocDems at most.
You can call it newspeak, but political movements arise under new/different names as the situation dictates, and often refer to different things. I'd argue that the point of newspeak within 1984 was actually to limit the evolution of language and restrict the development of new words/ideas, but I do get where you're coming from on account of "progressive" being considered more politically correct.