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[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Yeah, except progressive positions are broadly popular. Raising billionaire and corporate taxes? Popular. Single-payer healthcare? Popular. Universal Basic Income?Popular. Bernie Sanders? Still pretty fucking popular!

Meanwhile, how popular was the flaccid centrist platform the Democrats put up this year? Is Kamala gonna be president? Are they gonna keep the Senate? Is the house looking good? No? Then maybe it's time for all the popularity experts in the Democratic party to shut the fuck up.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Data? In an argument with a data denial weirdo? Good luck on convincing this weirdo.

[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm just so fucking tired of hearing why the policies that I and most of the country want are unpopular from people who can't win a fucking election.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago

Yep. Maybe whenever we're allowed elections again we'll have a candidate with polices that people like. Thanks Harris!

[–] GiveMemes@jlai.lu -1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

And yet the party that runs exactly contrary to all those issues just won the election... Polls are great and all, but polling the general population and polling likely voters and exit polls are all very different things lmfao.

Coming back to add that these are polls of democrats for the most part, which only make up 30% of the voting population.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/15370/party-affiliation.aspx

Sometimes, the people that do this shit for a living (not me, but the so called popularity experts you have such disdain for) know more about this than non-experts, just as physicists tend to know more about physics than a rando off the street.

[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The party that ran a populist message won. When their economic situation is dire, people turn to populist leaders. When there's no populist movement in the left (usually some for of socialist/labor movement) they turn to right-wing populism (fascism). Democrats spent the last 12 years stamping out any kind of pro-labor movement that started in their party in favor of neoliberal centrism, and now their losing to right-wing facism.

Edit: Oh, just saw the shit you added! You know, when a physicist finds out that their experiment contradicts their hypothesis, they have to admit their theory is wrong! They don't just run the exact same experiment again in 8 years and expect a different outcome. That's why physics is a real science and political science isn't!