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Harris Ran to Trump’s Right on Immigration — and Gained Absolutely Nothing For It (theintercept.com)

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Donald Trump railed against immigrants, presenting them as a threat to a supposed American way of life. Kamala Harris, for her part, embraced this same narrative, if not the rhetoric, and yet had nothing to show for it on Wednesday morning.

About 71 percent of Americans, including majorities across the political spectrum, believe economic factors are largely behind the recent influx of migrants, whether it’s better opportunities in the U.S. or poor conditions in their home countries, according to a report from the Pew Research Center. Sixty-five percent pointed to violence in migrants’ home countries as a major reason for driving so many people to the U.S.

Last year, border state Reps. Veronica Escobar, D-Texas, and Raúl Grijalva, D-Ariz., tried warning Biden again.

“Rather than re-imposing Trump-era deterrence policies,” they wrote, “we must demonstrate a sharp contrast with these approaches by showing compassion towards migrants and upholding our asylum obligations, while simultaneously seeking to curb the broad-based sanctions that contribute to widespread suffering and spur increased migration.”

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[-] rowrowrowyourboat@sh.itjust.works 37 points 21 hours ago

Nah, the loss is on stupid Americans. No matter her position on these issues, it should have been a landslide victory for anyone but Trump.

[-] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Even if that was true, the stupid Americans will vote again in 4 years, and their votes count for as much if not more than the rest of voters. Blaming them won't win 2028, or even midterms. They got exactly what they wanted, why would they change?

[-] AmidFuror@fedia.io 18 points 21 hours ago

I think the lesson is that if you want to win, you need to target stupid people with the kinds of stupid ideas that they like. And put them in the stupid places they congregate, online and off.

It would help to buy a bunch of media outlets and have billionaires on your team (by supporting policies that will make them more money), because they can buy up the media and then amplify any kind of nonsense you want.

This is the "when they go low, we go lower" that people are clamoring for and may be the only way to win future elections.

[-] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 8 points 20 hours ago

The messaging needs to be simple and address their stupid concerns, not cater to their stupid solutions. Campaigning on improving the immigration process to handle the influx instead of mass deportations can be kept simple and successful without being terrible and stupid.

[-] droporain@lemmynsfw.com 0 points 17 hours ago

Wrong the stupid people were voting Trump no matter what Harris position was. The only path to victory was to ensure everyone with a brain voted, but they weren't even offered a primary.

[-] timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works 1 points 14 hours ago

It's not the stupid voters. It's the lazy fucks who decided not to vote at all.

Hope they are ready to get fucked because that's what their inaction brought about.

[-] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 2 points 20 hours ago

Two years.

[-] blazera@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago

Nah, the loss is on stupid Americans.

Thats what they said

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