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Ambulance hits cyclist, rushes him to hospital, then sticks him with $1,800 bill
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this post was submitted on 08 Nov 2024
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The rest of the world often also builds better infrastructure, like a protected bike lane, to signifcantly reduce the conflicts between cars and not cars.
A bike lane would've helped. If there wasn't one, I can see a good reason for whatever the fuck really happened here.
If there had been a bike lane, he could/would have stayed there behind the stopping line acknowledging the right of the ambulance to go first, but without one...I can see someone in panic trying to get out of the way and then getting run over regardless of where he was positioned.
Youre ignoring the bike lanes are separate from the car lanes, which protects cyclists. But in the US the firedept doesn't like that. Lanes need to be so wide and space so clear that the bikes have no space
I'm not sure I get what you're saying, or what I'm missing.
I'm talking about the most basic kind of bike lane, which by all means is just a line on the tarmac. It does however ensure that the bike has a place to be, and that the bike will be visible to the cars, because the bike lane's stopping line is further ahead than that of the cars. I also don't know the exact situation from the article, but if the bike had been at the stopping line in this bike lane, it would never conflict with a right turning ambulance.
Why bother doing all that, saying you dont understand when you could have just watched the video lmao.
Get out sometime, see what things look like in the world instead of drawing images in your own little view.
I still don't have any clue about what part of my comment you object against, or why you're so fucking negative about it.
All I'm saying is that the right turn accident was completely preventable by making a simple painted line on the tarmac, as it is done in many places where there isn't room for the kind of huge separated bike lanes as shown in your photo.
Most countries that do that are also significantly smaller lol
The size of a country shouldn't impact urban areas that much. Cyclists aren't biking from california to florida on a daily basis, they are biking from their home to their job, gym, or groccery store. Your country is not too big for bike lanes, you're city planners are just wastefull.
Oh I don't disagree, just a fair point, it wouldnt make any sense in rural areas, which is 97% of the USA landmass lol
Which makes my point. Japan has 300+ people per square km, almost 10x as dense as the US. They still put out fires and carry sick people.
My point is it's much easier to have localized support when there isn't miles between buildings lol
Oh I didn't realize you were making a strawman argument.
We were discussing the unnecessarily large emergency vehicles.
Is it a straw man when I am saying the majority of America is rural and therefore urban-specific fixes for this issue can't fully apply in a country as large as the USA as it can for some the size of our smallest states
There's still miles of countryside between cities in the Netherlands, Japan, Switzerland, Germany, and Denmark. Many of Canada's cities have fantastically walkable neighborhoods and light train services, and Canada has even more unreachable rural areas than the Sates. Urban solutions are almost completely unaffected by the size of the rural areas.
These solutions can all happen in individual cities and even towns. How many hours of car driving away the next urban center is doesn't affect where parking is placed, or zoning density, or where the highways are routed, or how fast the busses are, or whether a light train could be viable.
I'm not even disagreeing that these are good solutions, it was more in response to saying we didn't need emergency service vehicles lmao
You don't need giant EMS vehicles is cities. I bet 95% of EMS vehicles in large cities never leave city limits. Even if absolute units of EMS vehicles are somehow necessary for rural service (I doubt that), smaller, safer vehicles could easily service urban areas.