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Honestly call or email the Democratic party offices and voice that you one hundred percent agree with Sanders.

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[–] d00phy@lemmy.world 70 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Unfortunately his whole political career has been the democrats telling him he’s wrong as they continually shoot themselves in their collective dick.

I, for one, will be writing in his name, voting third party or not at all until they give me a genuinely progressive candidate. Until then, fuck them, and fuck this country.

[–] TeenieBopper@lemmy.world 23 points 4 days ago (1 children)

One of the biggest things about being a leftist is being right about stuff before it's considered polite.

[–] WanderingVentra@lemm.ee 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

It's like being Cassandra, the Greek seer who can see the future but is cursed to forever be not believed.

[–] Saledovil@sh.itjust.works 16 points 4 days ago (2 children)

What is needed is a socialist organization of voters who together have enough voting power to make our break a Democratic representatives career.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (2 children)

progressives are already 8% of voters. We can make or break elections now.

[–] Saledovil@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago

Having the numbers isn't enough, there needs to be organization. A group of 8% of the electorate that votes in lockstep could affect policy pretty fundamentally, more than any amount of money could.

[–] DancingBear@midwest.social 3 points 3 days ago

And progressive policies are supported by supermajorities of both democrat and republican voters…. Oh well

[–] btaf45@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

What is needed is a socialist organization of voters who together have enough voting power to make our break a Democratic representatives career.

Yes. But it can be any group of voters. Could be a 'tea party on the left'.

[–] Saledovil@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Aren't organization and group synonymous?

And of course, this is assuming that Trump isn't going to establish himself as a dictator. Of course, the thing is Trump is too old to be dictator. And the people around him don't seem to be the most competent, either. So I sort of don't know what's going to happen. In any case, I'm glad that I don't live in the US, thought authoritarianism is advancing globally.

[–] WanderingVentra@lemm.ee 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

If Trump is going to establish himself as a dictator, then this kind of group is even more important. Lots of socialist groups have toppled totalitarian leaders, and when they haven't, it's usually because of western countries like the US helping the dictator. Of course, it might have to run underground a bit more, but solidarity between various organizations will be extremely important in the upcoming 4 years.

[–] Saledovil@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago

Well, you're right, but then the group's tactics would need to be fundamentally different.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Now, imagine this sentiment among thousands of people, across multiple states. That’s how you lose an election.

[–] Wogi@lemmy.world 34 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Lmao buddy. Ignoring the people to the left is how you literally just lost an election

[–] scarabine@lemmynsfw.com 12 points 4 days ago

That is exactly what they just said.

[–] d00phy@lemmy.world 22 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Sorry, but losing strategies deserve to lose. Im tired of voting for someone because they’re slightly less bought and paid for.

[–] btaf45@lemmy.world -1 points 4 days ago

The best reason to vote for Harris was because she was going to raise taxes on billionaires and corporations like Biden did also. Why would you NOT do that?

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 12 points 4 days ago

If two partys are not representing my interests at all, the winning strategy is to make my vote about punishing the one that didnt represent my interests when it was in power. This way it will have to adapt to recognize my interests when it needs my vote to get back to power.

By just always voting whatever party claims to be the less evil for me, all i do is create a race to the bottom of evil, as i make sure that my vote does not need to be fought for.

[–] scarabine@lemmynsfw.com 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

These people are all whooshing hard on what you said. They can't even imagine non-scold comments anymore.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

It’s okay. We’re all frustrated.