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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 45 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Thank fuck. Can we have cheaper graphics cards again please?

I'm sure a RTX 4090 is very impressive, but it's not £1800 impressive.

[–] lorty@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Just wait for the 5090 prices...

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 1 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I just don't get whey they're so desperate to cripple the low end cards.

Like I'm sure the low RAM and speed is fine at 1080p, but my brother in Christ it is 2024. 4K displays have been standard for a decade. I'm not sure when PC gamers went from "behold thine might from thou potato boxes" to "I guess I'll play at 1080p with upscaling if I can have a nice reflection".

[–] Tywele@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

4k displays are not at all standard and certainly not for a decade. 1440p is. And it hasn't been that long since the market share of 1440p overtook that of 1080p according to the Steam Hardware survey IIRC.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk -1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Maybe not monitors, but certainly they are standard for TVs (which are now just monitors with Android TV and a tuner built in).

[–] Tywele@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

That doesn't really matter if people on PC don't game on it, does it?

These are the primary display resolutions from the Steam Hardware Survey.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 1 points 1 month ago

I do wonder how much higher that would be if GPUs targeting 4K were £299 rather than £999.

Although some of it is down to monitors being on desks right in front of you and 4K not really being needed. It would also be interesting to for Valve to weight the results by hours spent gaming that month (and amount they actually spend on games), rather than just counting hardware numbers.

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You're so close to the answer. Now, why are PC gamers the ones still on 1080 and 1440 when everyone else has moved on?

[–] Tywele@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago

Have I said anything in favor of crippling lower end cards or that these high prices of the high end cards are good? My only argument was that 4K displays in the PC space being the standard was simply delusional because the stats say something wholly different.

[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 month ago

Well, people aren’t sticking 4090s in their Samsung smart TVs, so idk that matters.

[–] lorty@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think it's just an upselling strategy, although I agree I don't think it makes much sense. Budget gamers really should look to AMD these days, but unfortunately Nvidia's brand power is ridiculous.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 3 points 1 month ago

An the issue for PC gamers is that Nvidia has spent the last few years convincing devs to shovel DLSS into everything, rather than a generic upscaling solution that other vendors could just drop their own algorithms into, meaning there's a ton of games that won't upscale nicely on anything else.

[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago

Before you claim 4k is the standard, you might wanna take a peak at the Steam hardware survey.

I don’t know anyone I game with that uses a 4k monitor. 1440p at your monitors max refresh rate is the favorite.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 month ago

Sorry, crypto is back in season.

[–] tempest@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I swapped to AMD this generation and it's still expensive.

[–] woodenskewer@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

A well researched pre-owned is the way to go. I bought a 6900xt a couple years ago for a deal.

[–] jas0n@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I used to buy broken video cards on ebay for ~$25-50. The ones that run, but shut off have clogged heat sinks. No tools or parts required. Just blow out the dust. Obviously more risky, but sometimes you can hit gold.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

If you can buy a ten and one works, you've saved money. Two work and you're making money. The only question is whether the tenth card really will work or not.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

And are you really interested in selling the extras?

[–] BallsandBayonets@lemmings.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Graphics cards are so bulky nowadays it's often hard to even fit two on one mobo, as much as I'd love to see 10 GPUs all linked up.

Lol. I guess you'd need to go to a mining crypto den then, I hear they pull that sort of nonsense. ;)

But seriously though, I'm not interested in listing, shipping, and dealing w/ customer feedback just to save a few bucks on a GPU, because that sounds like a job.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

For the price of the bundle? Sure.

Really? I'm far too lazy to list things like that. If I was, I'd be buying a lot more than 10 and make a little business out of it.

[–] tempest@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago

I used to get EVGA bstock which was reasonable but they got out of the business 😞

[–] bountygiver@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago

nope, if normal gamers are already willing to pay that price, no reason for nvidia to reduce them.

There's more 4090 on steam than any AMD dedicated GPU, there's no competition

[–] mightyfoolish@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

AMD will go back to the same strategy they had with the RX 580. They don't plan to release high end cards next generation. It seems they just want to pump out a higher volume of mid-tier (which is vague and subjective) while fixing hardware bugs plaguing the previous generation.

Hopefully, this means we can game on a budget while AMD is focusing primarily on marketshare.