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Environmental advocates understand the announcement as a reversal, calling it “absolutely devastating.”

The Biden administration has backtracked from supporting a cap on plastic production as part of the United Nations’ global plastics treaty.

This represents a reversal of what the same groups were told at a similar briefing held in August, when Biden administration representatives raised hopes that the U.S. would join countries like Norway, Peru, and the United Kingdom in supporting limits on plastic production.

Nearly 70 countries, along with scientists and environmental groups, support the latter. They say it’s futile to mop up plastic litter while more and more of it keeps getting made.

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[–] WanderingVentra@lemm.ee 15 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Eh the Democrats really fucked up this last election and haven't made a lot of good decisions since (undoing their 30 day warning to Israel, this, they haven't really been preparing for the Trump admin well like by fast tracking judges or anything, etc).

It's probably just a coincidence but personally I'm okay with the anger getting to a place where another party rises to take their place. This election was the last straw for a lot of people and I think it's finally causing some people to see how not great they are. Everyone's been ignoring it and discouraging dissent against them on Lemmy for a long time now because the election, but there's no reason to hold back. There's no more election now so I doubt it's bots or whatever, it's just people pissed, and rightfully.

As for the lack of other discussion, there's probably just not a lot else to say. It's a bad decision that's obviously bad for environment and the world. There isn't a lot to say about thay other than, "well that sucks."

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 1 points 4 days ago

Turning against the corporate Democrats, because their environmental policies are bad, will not get them replaced by something better. Turning against the corporate Democrats will probably result in one-party rule by the Republicans for a generation, with horrors environmental and domestic the likes of which no one of this generation has witnessed.

I would also apply that exact same thing to the breed of Nancy Pelosi Democrats that wants to hang the progressive wing of the party out to dry. It seems like after a few days of panic after the election, everyone forgot what we're in for. We need allies at this stage. Or we will all hang separately, and like that.

Everyone’s been ignoring it and discouraging dissent against them on Lemmy

This narrative that "everyone" on Lemmy loves the Democrats is very weird. You can deal head-on with what I'm saying, it is fine, you don't need to agree with me. But the "Democrats aren't great" consensus on Lemmy is not exactly a persecuted minority, please don't try to introduce a narrative that they are.