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[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

but the system is rigged or my vote doesn't count or genocide joe or some stupid shit

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I mean genocide joe is calling any democrat who wants to stop sending weapons to israel a hamas supporter. I can understand why they didn't believe the dems would fix the situation.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Credibility that a politician will do what the people they're asking to vote for them want isn't stupid shit, that's the absolute most basic aspect of representative democracy.

Do you think the republicans would have voted for Trump if his messaging was mostly about how the democrats are correct and he's going to do what the democratic voters want more competently, and called his constituents antisemitic terrorist supporters?

Then surely you understand why the dems trotting out Liz Cheney to represent them and talking about the importance of building the wall, being tough on crime, tax-cuts for businesses, increasing military spending, etc all lowers democratic turnout?

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Shitty reasons to let the ultra-fascists win

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

That's just how representative democracy works. You can go "Damn I wish people tended to vote for a party they don't believe will do what they want because the other side is worse", but that's just not how it works in reality.

The democrats failed the people, the people did not fail the democrats.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

The democrats should have been able to run a goddamn cardboard cutout and people should have turned out in droves to vote against that shitstain. This isn't 2000. This wasn't the kind of election where any of the things you mentioned should have been a factor. It's insane.

Yes, I absolutely can blame the people for being too lazy or stupid to do the minimum possible to protect themselves and their neighbors. These excuses are just goddamn braindead, and it will never not astound me that when comparing a functioning adult to a giant corrupt sack of shit, that anyone anywhere had to have a conversation about why they should bother to show uo to vote for the functioning adult.

You're/they're/we're now going to pay for having a complete lack of perspective. Buckle up, it is not going to be fun for anyone. Except the oligarchs I guess.

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 1 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

people should have just

You're not looking at this from a systemic perspective. It's childish to say "everyone is bad and dumb so they deserve what they get".

It's constructive to say "democrats will lose if they fail to promote popular left policy in 2026 and 2028, and if they do win, they absolutely have to immediately materially improve people's conditions if they don't want to get blown out again in 2030 as happened in 2022."