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This is a big problem. It creates the illusion that /c/cats on one particular instance is the real /c/cats.

This is the root of re-centralization and it must be pulled out.

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[–] lvxferre@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sorry, I edited my comment in the meantime. (Fixing broken grammar, linking the archives, stuff like this.) That said:

Then Lemmy is going to just beat repeat of voat

Not really. Even in worst case scenario (everyone migrates to a single instance), lemmy.ml is considerably wider in scope and userbase than the socially rejected in Voat.

And, while I do agree with you that there is a communication problem, and that it needs to be addressed, it is far from the worst case scenario. For example I consistently see here people from beehaw, lemmy.world, fedddit.de, and other instances.

Why is /c/ federation disabled by default.

Federation happens between instances, not between communities. You can access any community from a federated instance.

If federation is disabled by default (is it?), I think that this might have to do with spam and bot prevention. I'm not sure however.


Now, off-topic:

While I get that spending time in Reddit made us people behave less like decent human beings and more like dumbarses/redditors/morons, even then I think that we should watch out to not behave as such outside Reddit. Let its stupidity culture die with it.

From your comment, three things caught my attention:

  • assuming that things that you don't understand "make no sense".
  • lack of insight - why are you giving views to that shithole?
  • decontextualisation - ipsis ungulis "Then read it locally with libreddit", letting the reader to guess what you're referring to. (I got it, but someone else 2m later won't).

Please, don't.

[–] sotolf@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think what they mean by /c/ federation is combining the communities, so that c/technology would combine lemmy.world/c/technology and kbin.social/m/technology and lemmy.ml/c/technology, but I'm not 100% sure.

[–] lvxferre@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If that is indeed what the other poster meant, then it's even worse - it's missing the point of federation, that is "let's not centralise our discussions within a single place, as this gives too much power to the people who control that place".

[–] sotolf@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Sure, I agree with you :) I just wanted to clear up what I saw as a misunderstanding, not argue against your point :)

[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You misunderstand, I am asking for the maximum possible extreme type of decentralization

[–] lvxferre@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Then my first interpretation was correct. TL;DR: yes, it is an issue, "we" (Lemmyverse users) should be spreading out more.

[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Yes, I want it all in one place. Preferably in my own, self hosted, single user Lemmy instance. Zero external filtering with my consent, sorting algorithm fully under my control. I will apply my own filters, spamblock, Adblock and moderation subscriptions as I see fit.