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[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

it's not clear that grasslands could (or should) be converted to human crops.

[–] seeking_perhaps@mander.xyz 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

They don't need to be. Stop raising livestock and you no longer need to feed them, which allows us to use the remaining land to feed humans. But livestock only make up a small percentage of human diets, so we can actually give back a ton of land to nature and still easily feed everyone.

https://ourworldindata.org/global-land-for-agriculture

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

a large portion of the land used to raise livestock are grasslands. what portion of feed they are given is also, largely, crop seconds or industrial byproduct. the source for your owid link is largely poore-nemecek, a paper I would trust to tell me the co2e of co2

[–] seeking_perhaps@mander.xyz 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I'd like to see a source for "what portion of feed they are given is also, largely, crop seconds or industrial byproduct". The vast majority of information I have seen on this topic is that we produce more crops specifically to feed animals than we do to feed humans. Which, just from an energy perspective, is completely logical to me.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

here is soy !

you see the "soy cake" bit? that's the byproduct of soybean oil.

[–] seeking_perhaps@mander.xyz 1 points 13 minutes ago

I don't see how this supports your argument that eliminating livestock would not reduce land usage. 76% of soybean production is going to animal feed, do you really think that percentage would not reduce if you switched it over to providing food for humans?