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Using arch but honestly. I don't "like" any of them. Every distro I've ever used has required more setup and maintenance than I would have liked.
I really just want a system that doesn't bork itself on updates and let's me install whatever software I want. You would think that wouldn't be so impossible to find.
Sounds like you need an LTS.
I tried debian stable a week or two ago. Had about 4 different showstopper bugs in 3 or so days. It doesn't seem to help much from my limited experience.
Huh. Are you running any kind of exotic setup? What kind of bugs were they? Can you be sure they were Debian bugs and not hardware issues?
Yes. I had both actually. Hardware and debian specific bugs, on a clean install from the live iso with barely any packages installed from apt and like 10 flatpaks. I'm a bit exhausted rn to find all the links. But let me find at least the worst one for ya.
This was the most egregious one. essentially. On a fresh install updating was broken. Yeah. It was that bad.
In addition to that there was the amd ftpm stutter. Which isn't necessarily debians fault. But it's still bad.
And I was having screen flickers. Not sure why. I was tired enough of it bugging out that I just gave up on the stable dream and went back to arch.
nixos solves this problem by allowing you to boot the last working system state prior to updates. and as a bonus you can manage all of your computers from a single config in a git repo. bit of a learning curve but it takes most of the annoyance out of linux for me.
I kinda don't want that. I want a system that doesn't break in the first place...
My experience with nix was very short lived. It mostly consisted of me wondering how to install something and people telling me to package it myself for a day of two til I gave up.
updates invariably break things, whatever we do. the safety net of being able to roll back makes taking updates a lot more palatable.
yeah, like I said it has a learning curve so it's not for everyone but it's been a lifesaver for me so I thought I'd point it out.
Indeed. Maybe I'll give it another try if/when arch botches itself again.
The idea of a reproducible system is honestly great.