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[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

Yeah, we'd hate to make a good alternative when everyone can just use Bluesky and Meta.

The hate for .world simply because of size doesn't make sense to me. It's fine to make new (unique) communities elsewhere, but shunning the biggest successful communities on .world to try to grow empty communities on other instances is cutting off your nose to spite your face.

If you're constantly shunning the biggest instance simply for being big, you'll end up killing Lemmy.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 18 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

There's more than just being big, those things may not matter to you, or even the majority, but I've heard enough gripes repeated to know some people are bothered.

The flip flopping on policies without clear transparency bothered some people but tbh I forgave that as growing pains of being in charge of a new popular platform.

The one mentioned more often is how they're one of the main ones to federate with Meta's Threads. Integration isn't really there right now anyway but every other major Lemmy instance has preemptively blocked them already:

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[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I can respect the Threads thing. That's a valid reason other than "we need to be even smaller".

[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

we need to be even smaller

That's not the argument, please don't trust it needlessly like that

The point is that having everything be on one instance results in the centralized abuse of power we saw with reddit

Per example: .world has some famously bad power mods (a certain soaring mollusk comes to mind) same as reddit, growing communities outside of that centralized area gives us a place to run when they finally snap completely, as is inevitable with power mods

This is very easy to do thanks to how Lemmy works

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world -1 points 3 days ago

That mod has one political community. That's it. "They" appears to be one mod of one community that you have an issue with.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 days ago

It's not that we need to be smaller, but we benefit if we all grow similarly, or at least the community distribution does.

[–] aeshna_cyanea@lemm.ee 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I don't think most of the data in the network should be hosted by a single legal entity, that's just unhealthy even if the protocol is open. It's also my main complaint about bluesky- technically open protocol, de facto centralization.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 days ago

You can see instances that haven't been defederated. Why is it important for everyone to be on the same one? Everyone has the ability to get the same feed on All.