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Bernie Sanders: We Need More Working-Class Candidates to Challenge Both Parties
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They didn’t lose because they weren’t progressive enough. They lost because Biden inherited a pandemic that caused inflation and weak economy that required increasing interest rates.
Oh, now the economy at the time of the election was weak. Last month it was roaring and everyone who noticed that they couldn't afford groceries was a Russian shill.
Democrats supported genocide, ran anti-trans bigotry in their own ads, and reveled in getting the endorsement of Dick Cheney. They moved to the right and lost. Quit defending their shitty behavior.
Not sure what you are babbling about here. Republican ads during the election were all focused on the high inflation.
The US military supports Israel to prevent Iran from getting stronger in the region because Iran has teamed up with China, Russia and North Korea and are actively supply drones and other weapons to Russia for use in Ukraine.
Netanyahu is responsible for the genocide. He is the only one who can stop it.
Cheney had absolutely nothing to do with Harris losing. Absolutely nothing in the polls or anecdotal evidence supports that claim but it is heavily pushed as a taking point here on lemmy from lemmy.ml so that fact should speak to how disingenuous it is.
Don't fucking gaslight me. Democrats ran on "the economy is great actually".
Biden and the entire centrist wing of the party supported GENOCIDE for the sheer joy of it and no other reason.
He sure as fuck didn't help. But since you and your entire wing of the party has always loved everything he ever stood for, you were happy for his endorsement. Senpai noticed you.
Democrats didn’t run on this. Biden simply pointed out that inflation was going down but there was more to do.
Bad faith actors tried to spin that into “bIdEn SaId GrOcErIeS aRe ChEaP oMgWtF”.
Such a blatant bad faith argument. If he really just wants to commit genocide then why specifically arm Israel. Aren’t there easier ways to commit genocide. You’re pretending that he is some Bond villain to ignore nuance and geopolitics.
What is my wing of the party? Anything you pretend to know about me is based on assumptions just like everything else you’ve said. Finding common ground and reaching across the aisle is how you get things done in a democracy with many different ideologies.
Democrats tried to pretend that nothing was wrong while people couldn't afford to eat.
I see you've fantasized this out.
Democrats don't reach left.
This is literally the republican spin on Biden pointing out that inflation metrics have improved since their peak.
I see you’re avoiding the question. Sorry if reality doesn’t support your narrative.
You don’t consider Bernie Sanders or AOC to be further left than the rest of the democrats? Oh you’re just arguing in bad faith… gotcha
Everything that isn't performative worship of failure is "republican spin" to you.
The reality is that there's an ongoing genocide. The reality is that the Biden administration supported it unconditionally.
And what was the last thing either of them proposed that had as much support from the party as "reaching across the aisle" to capitulate to Republicans? Cori Bush and Jamaal Bowman are also further left, and the party let them twist in the wind instead of "protecting incumbents" which was their excuse for propping up anti-choice, anti-labor, pro-NRA Henry Cuellar.
No, I’m saying you are literally repeating what republicans put in their attack ads.
Caused by Netanyahu not Biden.
Biden only support Israel proportionally to what Iran supported Russia.
Reducing healthcare costs and forgiving student loans are a couple examples off the top of my head. I never said democrats capitulated to republicans. Not sure why you threw that in there.
If you missed all the "the economy is fine, just ignore the evidence of your pocketbook" bullshit that was shoveled out by Democrats, that's on you.
Exacerbated and enabled by Biden, to your considerable delight.
We're supposed to be better than Russia or Iran. But there's a genocide to support, so you'll make excuses for it until it's complete.
Ha.
They capitulate and excuse it by calling it "reaching across the aisle." Republicans are never expected to reach across the aisle. They're never expected to be magnanimous or gracious. They're never expected to move to the left in order to appease Democrats.
Democrats keep moving to the right to appease Republicans. They don't move to the left to please their own base.
Literally made up which is consistent with everything you’ve said so far.
I’m not delighted at all by it. That is why I place the blame where it is due. On Netanyahu. Because this isn’t something that should be spun into a political talking point like you’re doing.
You’re the one trying to reallocate blame from Netanyahu onto Biden to support your political narrative.
Nothing to say because you’re wrong? I know.
Republicans are never expected to do those things by the Republican Party. Why does that matter to us? You want us to follow their example?
I literally gave you examples of democrats moving left and working with Bernie and AOC and you proved me right by showing you had no rebuttals.