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Brian Thompson, CEO of UnitedHealthcare, was fatally shot in a premeditated attack outside the New York Hilton Midtown before speaking at an investor conference.

The gunman, still at large, fired multiple times, leaving shell casings marked with the words “deny,” “defend,” and “depose.”

Authorities suggest Thompson was targeted but remain unclear on the motive. His wife confirmed prior threats against him.

Analysts speculate a possible vendetta tied to his company. The case raises questions about executive security, as Thompson lacked personal protection despite known risks.

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[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Absolutely, hence why they do have to say that the motive is unclear. While we all have strong theories about why this happened, there are plenty of other possibilities that have to be considered. Could have been taken out by his family for insurance money, could have been a business rival, the guy might have gotten in shit with the mob. At this point they just don't know.

[–] Skiluros@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The impression I got from when I lived in the US is that at his level, US oligarchs generally don't like getting their hands dirty and there are strong communal disincentives to disrespecting "honour among thieves" laws. All the oligarchs groups will gang up on you if you use direct violence against another oligarch.

From what I've read, the "mob" in the US largely has no power, definitely nothing on the level of Brian Thompson. Even transnational groups (Mexican cartels, EU gangs, central American gangs) keep a low profile in the US and make a concentrated effort to avoid publicity.

I will admit, family issues is a possibility. Difficult to say. The business rivalry or mob connection doesn't seem even in the realm of possibility, but I could be wrong.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Exactly. We just don't have enough information yet and it is just silly to assume this is some sort of just world where people behind atrocities that are subsequently murdered are murdered because of those atrocities.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

He wrote Deny, defend, depose on the bullets. That's him speaking the language that the insurance industry uses. I would say that broadly, we know his motive. Who the company denied a claim for is the only real question here.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

As I said to someone else, do you really believe this was done by pro-Palestine activists?

https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/2024/10/free-gaza-messages-found-on-devices-at-burned-ballot-boxes-new-york-times-reports.html

It is silly to make assumptions based on three words. It's especially silly to assume someone isn't smart enough to make police think they're not the guilty party.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

No I don't think it has anything to do with Palestine, and everything to do with this book

https://delaydenydefend.com/

He switched delay to depose to send a clear message to the insurance industry. That message being, "there's a fourth step that you fuckers have forgotten in your three step strategy."

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Maybe you should have at least read the name of the URL. I didn't say that this has anything to do with Palestine.

Please, if you're not going to read the article, at least read the name of the URL and then respond to me accordingly.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I see what you are asking now. I can absolutely see that could be someone who was pro-palestinian setting ballot boxes on fire. It could be a false flag, but I'm not convinced either way.

This guy didn't have a good familiarity with his weapon. If he had test fired before he killed the CEO, he would have known that the spring on the gun was too strong for the ammo he was carrying and been able to swap one of the two out for a cleaner hit. That fact alone pretty much rules out a hired hitman. I'm no hitman, and I have much better familiarity with all my weapons than this guy seems to have had with his.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

You can hire someone who has never fired a gun before in their life to kill someone else. Which is also something that has happened before. People do things like pay their cousins to commit murder. And the person who gets paid can be really, really stupid.

https://www.heraldnet.com/news/lynnwood-man-gets-life-sentence-for-botched-murder-for-hire/