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[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago

Except that they're not both bad, that's just something Americans keep repeating.

[-] CatholicSocialist@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago
[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml -4 points 1 year ago

That's certainly what victims of US propaganda machine believe, but it's also objectively false.

[-] unions@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago

Welp, case closed. Someone said their opinion is objective truth. I guess denying humans sunshine is only subjectively evil.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 year ago

Objective facts have nothing to do with anybody's opinions and the facts are that quality of life in China continues to improve for the vast majority of the people. The government is actively working on doing things like eliminating poverty, creating public infrastructure, providing healthcare, housing, food, and education for all citizens. Chinese government practically eliminated poverty, and in fact China is the only place in a world where any meaningful poverty reduction is happening. If we take China out of the equation poverty actually increased in real terms:

If we take just one country, China, out of the global poverty equation, then even under the $1.90 poverty standard we find that the extreme poverty headcount is the exact same as it was in 1981.

The $1.90/day (2011 PPP) line is not an adequate or in any way satisfactory level of consumption; it is explicitly an extreme measure. Some analysts suggest that around $7.40/day is the minimum necessary to achieve good nutrition and normal life expectancy, while others propose we use the US poverty line, which is $15.

China used more concrete in 3 years than US in all of 20th century, they built 27,000km of high speed rail in a decade. 90% of families in the country own their home giving China one of the highest home ownership rates in the world. What’s more is that 80% of these homes are owned outright, without mortgages or any other leans. Real wage (i.e. the wage adjusted for the prices you pay) has gone up 4x in the past 25 years, more than any other country. This is staggering considering it's the most populous country on the planet. Finally, social mobility in China is such that Americans can only dream of.

Anybody who looks at this and thinks China is evil is utterly morally bankrupt.

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