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[–] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 21 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

For stoves, inductions are becoming the de-facto gold standard.

Don't give the gas propagandists the time of day on this issue - gas stoves have been strategically pushed as an effort to keep gas infrastructure installed across the U.S by the gas lobby.

[–] Zetta@mander.xyz 14 points 3 weeks ago

Just got an induction stove and I can't even begin to communicate how much better it is than gas and especially old style electric stoves.

[–] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

As someone who lives where the power goes out if the wind sneezes during an ice / heavy wet snow storm, there’s reasons to have non electric sources for both cooking and heat.

[–] uis@lemm.ee 8 points 3 weeks ago

Gas pipes freeze too.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Wouldn't it be better to have a generator or something? That way you can cook still, and power other things, like a heater if you need it.

[–] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 weeks ago

Generator only lasts so long as you have gas for it, but yes. Been begging the landlord for one, our well pump is electric so when we lose power we lose water too.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, except central heating need the fan running to be effective, which is electric... So gas heat doesn't even work without power.

[–] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Sure, wood furnaces can be a good option here to not have any dependency on neither the delivery of electricity nor gas. Food that can be eaten without needing to be heated is also good from a preparedness perspective, and a trail stove is also a good idea.

[–] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

There are times where storms are so bad here that power is out for a considerable amount of time and it’s brutally cold. Relying on electric is a non starter, people would literally die from exposure.

For most of the country it’s fine, but not for places that get deadly cold.

Wood furnaces are nice but not every place has one. My place does not.

[–] uis@lemm.ee 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

How cold is your place relative to Murmansk, Yakutsk or Oymyakon?

[–] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I don’t know how cold those places are but I live in VT in the mountains where it does go down to -20F on the regular and -40 occasionally.

[–] uis@lemm.ee 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 weeks ago

VT is often colder than murmansk but less cold than the other two cities listed. Note the freedom units: -40 is the same as metric but -20F is more like -30C. Apparently -20C is only -4F? Which is not that cold but a common temp in VT.

[–] 4lan@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Let me guess, The only state with its own power grid?

[–] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I don’t think vermont is on its own grid? We import a substantial amount of electricity from Quebec hydropower and most of our electricity is from renewable sources including our own hydropower, solar and wind.

Our grid goes down because trees fall on it.

[–] bitwolf@lemmy.one 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That was a jab at Texas I believe.

We often have power availability issues because it's detached from the grid and neglected for several years.

[–] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 weeks ago

I thought so. But power issues can happen anywhere in extreme weather especially if lines aren’t buried.

What my state and Texas have in common is we were both at once time independent republics before we joined the union. And my states pre USA independence lasted longer than the confederacy!

[–] desktop_user@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 weeks ago

Hawaii and Alaska also exist