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As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world. About 1C of total warming. Second chart: about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability. Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases. About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] Aesthesiaphilia@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, I'm talking about the ones who can't be assed to vote, not the ones who are prevented from voting

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They look the same in a lot of cases. Make it hard to vote, tell people they'll need to take time off from work, stand for hours in line, or find a polling place that's new and not announced until just before the day of the vote, and people won't bother to try.

Make it easy to vote, and a lot more people do.

[–] Aesthesiaphilia@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's a massive gap between the disenfranchisement happening in the South and other parts of the country, and people who without incredible effort can vote, but don't.

You're talking about "a lot of cases", sure, whatever, I'm talking about "the rest of the cases". Which is a lot, maybe even a majority, of the massive numbers of environmentalists who don't vote.

It's not that they can't, it's not that they're suppressed, these people just DON'T.

[–] ParsnipWitch@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is what they write on the website you linked to:

1,487,733 of the 9,542,183 million non-voting and seldom-voting environmentalists whom EVP has communicated with since the fall of 2015 are now consistent super-voters who vote in every election, big and small.

All in all there are about 139,398,590 environmentalists in the USA (41% of Americans identify themselves as "environmentalists").

How do you know that climate protestors aren't in the big group of environmentalists who vote?

[–] Aesthesiaphilia@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

Fine. Let me rephrase. Get other "environmentalists" to vote. Organize voting drives. Do campaigns. Fund candidates. Not this silly shit.