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Holy fuck just stop ... Birdshot as I have explained does not fan out. Stop watching cowboy movies. I own multiple shotguns in multiple different gauges and have my own range. I've been shooting probably longer than you have been alive. You clearly have never shot a shotgun and telling me you get great coverage down a hallway is complete nonsense, birdshot will not fan out down a hallway. The recoil and weight of a shotgun removes it as a good defense weapon for basically everyone but people who are physically strong. It's a terrible home defense gun.
Did you all learn everything about firearms from Hollywood?
Nope, use shotguns and understand how different chokes can impact spread.
With no choke I would expect a 2 inch spread at 10 feet. 2 inches is a lot of grace in a life or death situation.
Yes it has a lot of recoil, but in reality you're not getting into a shoot out. You're shooting once, maybe twice, before the encounter is over or into a scuffle.
They are not creating this massive wall of birdshot that you are claiming. Doesn't matter what fucking chokes you use.
Most people have no clue about chokes and there is not a single one giving you a massive wall of pellets at 10'.
ROFL no just no...there is a reason LEOs have gone from revolvers to double stack handguns....fire fights can last a lot longer than the bullets do and you want to be the last person with them. You %100 should not be skuffling with someone trying to kill you in your home with rounds still in the firearm you are using.
The amount of just wrong and ignorance in this thread is astonishing.
I said 2 inches, not a massive wall.
Again, I said 2 inches, not a massive wall...
You're not getting into a shoot out. Most people run when guns start going off. Also, a home owner may have the gun sitting there untouched for months. A revolver allows you to just pull the trigger again on a misfire instead of having to clear the chamber, which uses both hands.
Oh I agree. And people misrepresenting what's being said isn't helping either.
You suggested shotguns wiith birdshot because of the spread and ease to use and lack of penetration through walls. Then suggested chokes...you clearly thought that at 10' in a home you'd get a nice wide spray.
Why do you have multiple fire extinguishers in your home? You're not fighting fires? Why wear your seatbelt, your just going to the corner for a drink?... that's the dumbest logic ever, home invasions with armed intruders do exist and do happen. You prepare for the worst and hope for the best. Why are revolvers being brought into this now, they're shit for self defense for most people, they kick like mules and at best have 8 shots, most 6...
Nothing I have said is being misrepresented. You and the rest have stated multiple things:
Shotguns with birdshot don't go through walls
Shotguns are easy to use
ARs are terrible for home defense because they will go through walls
Those are things being presented by the people in this thread. All of which I have refuted with video evidence of the bullshit. Yet it continues to get argued by the clearly naive and ignorant bunch on lemmy.