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The sorry state of streaming residuals shows why SAG and the WGA are striking.

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[-] just_change_it@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago

How about if one person should make money in perpetuity for doing a job, everyone should?

You want to keep paying the architect, plumbers, electricians, carpenters and all the other construction crew that worked on your house right?

Oh wait... not that...

Maybe payment in perpetuity is a bad idea because it just funnels wealth to the few at the expense of the many... I mean it's ok to charge people a billion times for something done a single time right?

There's a huge philosophical discussion here, but instead you want to throw names. Things are the way they are overwhelmingly because of arbitrary bullshit.

Intellectual Property is a construct enabling monopolies and generating billions of dollars off the trivial reproduction of work done by others. All this perpetual money making bullshit is just piggybacking off of something that never should have been.

[-] nuachtan@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Intellectual Property is abused by monopolies, sure, but it's not a construct made by those monopolies. If you write a book you should have rights to how that book is distributed. That's the idea behind copyright.

[-] just_change_it@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

If you write a book you should have rights to how that book is distributed. That’s the idea behind copyright.

Copyright is all about preventing anyone else from profiting off of your work by simply copying your work. Thanks to Mickey Mouse that duration is now life+70 years which is absurd.

Distilling the concept down and removing the nuance: As of today if you produce a written work you have monopoly control over that work for life+70 years unless you sign contracts stating otherwise.

Today, copyright as a construct creates monopolies that survive the creator.

In the case of Drug copyright, the duration is 20 years from the invention, which generally ends up being about 10 years after clinical trials to make money before anyone can make a copy. I struggle to see why the rules do not evenly apply, but the rationale behind drugs seems to be that humans benefit from them being available for as cheap as possible. If we had 20 year durations on TV and Movie copyrights it would be better for the masses and would give creators decades to earn profits on their work.

Drug makers try everything possible to extend copyrights on their drugs by doing things like creating medical devices with superior delivery methods in the case of injectable drugs. Since the new delivery method is more effective the old one is generally not used and so generics have to then wait for the delivery method to be out of copyright... This is just one example though. There's no promises a generic drug ever comes to market if the drug is not widely used. The same shenanigans would be used by the entertainment industry to re-package their content with remastered versions or re-scanned original films like they have done with DVD, Blu-Ray and Streaming versions. Extended editions would also be an option... but the original copy would be free for all to enjoy after 20 years.

Why anyone is able to profit off of the original edition of Peter Jackson's Lord of the Rings for another hundred years is beyond me, it should just be free and available to everyone imo. The money has been made.

That's my opinion anyway. Monopolies and income in perpetuity are horrible concepts generally only abused by the few at the detriment of the many. In the real world many just pirate content anyway. If it were up to rights' holders NO copies even for personal use would be allowed. They would just have us pay per view even for copies we purchased.

[-] nuachtan@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I can agree with most of what you wrote. I'm not entirely convinced the life +70 protections for some things is wrong. An artist should have control over their work, but once they pass things need to become public domain. I'll go one step further and say that no one should be able to own things they didn't create or commission. The Happy Birthday story is a prime example.

[-] johnlobo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

wow, so dumb trying to sound intelligent.

"funnel wealth to few". this is what happenning now.

the people striking won't get rich from what they are asking for. they are asking for liveable income. they are only asking for a tiny portion from the collective profit of work that have their name in it. and they not only asking for money, they asking to be treated like a human being at their workplace.

architect are rich as fuck. plumber are very well paid.

"Intellectual Property is a construct enabling monopolies and generating billions of dollars off the trivial reproduction of work done by others. All this perpetual money making bullshit is just piggybacking off of something that never should have been.". and wtf are you rambling here?

don't talk shit when you never try working like them.

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