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I continuously grapple with this intricate web of thought that intertwines infinity, atomic structure, and consciousness. It's predicated on the assumption that if time truly is infinite, then there isn't just a probability, but an inevitability, that all the matter in the universe will align exactly as they are now.

(I posted this over at c/stonerthoughts, where it will inevitably die without a single interaction, but this is an ongoing pervasive thought I have, and i just wanted to put it out there for more eyes to see.)

This possibility stems from the Poincaré recurrence theorem, a principle in mathematics and physics which suggests that certain systems will, given a sufficiently long but finite time, return to a state almost identical to their initial state. Now, if we consider the universe to be such a system, it implies that given infinite time, every atomic configuration that has ever occurred will inevitably reoccur.

Now, let's venture deeper. If our consciousness is an emergent property of a specific atomic arrangement, then the recurrence of that atomic arrangement implies the recurrence of that conscious experience. Hence, if we're bound to this specific arrangement of matter, and time is infinite, are we not then destined to relive this conscious experience an infinite number of times?

The implications are staggering. It suggests a form of cosmic reincarnation, a cyclic existence governed not by spiritual dogma but by the immutable laws of the universe.

My next step is trying to figure out how this concept could integrate with the theory of an afterlife. Also the infinite nature of the individuals conscience, being the observer and therefore the centre of their own universe.

What's your take on this perspective? How does it change your understanding of consciousness, existence, and our role within this infinite cosmic dance?

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[–] Art3sian@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Not necessarily, because infinity might not mean what you think it means. Infinity doesn’t mean every possible outcome occurring, because there are different infinites.

For example, you can count an infinity using 1, 2, 3, 4, 5… But you can also count an infinity using 2, 4, 6, 8, 10. The latter infinity will only include half the numbers of the former, missing all odd numbers. It’s essentially an infinity 50% smaller than the other infinity - yet both are infinities. Maybe in this example, your consciousness is an odd number?

Another way to look at it is that there’s an infinity in between the numbers 0 and 1 using endless decimal places, and none of those numbers will ever be 2. In this example, maybe your consciousness is the number 7.

[–] LachlanUnchained@lemmyunchained.net 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Art3sian@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I wouldn’t stress too much. I don’t even think science has properly worked out the definition of infinity yet. Probably because there are an infinity of them.