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Honestly this is absurd. These death machines shouldn't be legal in europe. That thing doesn't even fit in the parking space, even though the parking lot has the biggest spaces in the whole city. The ~~Golf~~ Polo is so small in comparison, it could even hide in front of the engine hood of the truck.

EDIT: It's a Polo and not a Golf, I don't know my cars, sorry for that!

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[–] Prandom_returns@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There are many things you can't fit in a van. There are many things that fit in a van, but don't fit in a pickup truck.

Generally, a van fits more things, takes up less spacs, has a better visibility, are more efficient and don't look ridiculous.

And yes, believe it or not, there are vans that fit ATVs.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's a good way to get run over by an ATV in a crash.

[–] Prandom_returns@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, in both pickup trucks and vans.

Let's ignore that people have been using vans in Europe to haul heavy things for years. Let's ignore that you can strap things down to the railing inside the van Let's ignore the protective barrier between the driver and the cargo space.

10/10 argument.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have driven a van with a cargo barrier, it was rated for 90KG. Do you know how heavy an ATV is? More than that.

The lashing points would also tear out in a big enough impact.

You're talking shit.

[–] Prandom_returns@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't care enough about towing ATVs, listing all possible vans, or you to continue this conversation.

All I know that, at least in Europe, we've gotten around fine for decades without pickups, and everyone in a pickup is assumed to be a knob or an american.

Probably don't have many ATVs either.