I mean. It definitely carries the implication that Obama has done very little wrong whether or not you intended it that way. Natalie's inability to own up to mistakes is either a serious character flaw or she thinks that the murderous actions he took were justified.

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 40 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Or she is just pandering to her liberal audience

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago

both-sides

[–] zifnab25@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Since she basically stopped making content, I'm a little surprised she still has an audience. Like so many otherwise curiously influential and interesting people, she's doomed herself to drowning in the social media space when everyone would be better off (her most of all) if she just logged the fuck off.

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

She does streaming, I think.

I agree they all should log off instead.

[–] AdmiralShat@programming.dev 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I think, still, it's a reflection of what the conservative media at the time was making a big deal about. It wasn't the drone strikes or war crimes, it was the tan suit that was run on Fox for several weeks.

It's like they never gave a shit about civilian deaths. Ever.

[–] silent_water@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago

sure, but I'm not convinced the people making the jokes care any more about civilian deaths, either.

[–] NoGodsNoMasters@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

Natalie's inability to own up to mistakes is either a serious character flaw or

I don't think that that is a flaw she has is in question at this point tbh

[–] SkibidiToiletFanAcct@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Studied Philosophy as a PhD. That's one of the biggest flaws a human could have.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's not really hard is it? "Yeah people are right about this." and then growing from it. I don't think I've ever seen that from her, not a single time. Everyone is always wrong except her, it is always the internet's fault, and she is perfect and right about everything.

I have much more respect for people like Noah Samsen who has made mistakes with epic debatebros and just owned up to it like "Yep engaging with them was a mistake I shouldn't have done it and won't be in future". Just fucking learn from things ffs. Grow.