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Let's assume that in 10 years, AI has advanced absurdly, insanely fast, and is now capable of doing everything a Senior SWE can do. It can program in 15 different languages, 95% accuracy with almost no mistakes, can create entire applications in minutes, and no more engineers or SWEs are needed.... What will all the devs do? Do they just become homeless? Transition to medical field, nursing? Become tradespeople like plumbers, HVAC?

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[–] Sprocketfree@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Last time I used it the code it gave me wouldn't actually run. After 6 iterations and fixing the rest it kind of worked. In theory that should only get better but I'm not sold yet.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I would never have expected it to run, be shocked if it did. You use AI to get over humps, get new ideas and approaches. It's excellent for time saving in those cases.

AI isn't ready to replace coders, but it's quickly going to make a dent on the numbers needed.

[–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

AI isn't ready to replace coders, but it's quickly going to make a dent on the numbers needed.

Let me push back on this a bit - this belief comes from the assumption that I, as a hiring manager, need more team members because they can only type so fast.

My actual need for separate development team members is to achieve a bench depth of two people in each of the seven specializations necessary to keep my employer un-bankrupt. (My annual bonus is better if I somehow miraculously cover the 14 specializations necessary to make us never look like idiots. But these are wishes, not miracles.)

I don't currently see any sign that AI will ever materially affect the number of people I need to hire.

In contrast, the specific individuals I hire have massive impact on how many others I need to hire. One person with three specializations brings me massive savings.

But I pay my people to understand our organizational domains of expertise. LLMs don't bring any new understanding whatsoever into the organization.

[–] Sprocketfree@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 days ago

I see your thought process there. But I'm not sure modern IDEs led to less devs. Time will tell but I just few most of this as vapor ware atm. Let's also look at the fact that chatgpt is hemmoriging money even with high price tiers. It is possible this just burns itself out.