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Absolutely. LUKS full disk encryption. Comes as an opt-in checkbox on Ubuntu, for example.
And I too cannot understand why this is not opt-out rather than opt-in. Apparently we've decided that only normies on corporate spyware OSs need security, and we don't.
Because when shit breaks nobody wants to hear that their data is gone forever
And yet somehow on mobile, where most personal computing is now done, this is not a problem.
Because most of that data is synced to the cloud, icloud or Google photos.
Yep. Unfortunately that's where we are.
Oh, never met anyone that despises their own data. Hell yeah, dude. Lose that data!
Really? It's not because users don't have to remember another password?
People, listen to Juvenile and "back that thang up!" That man understand the importance of data redundancy.
There is a major downside to encryption: If you forget your password or your tpm fails and you've not backed things up, then that data is gone forever. If someone doesn't have anything incriminating or useful to theives on their device, the easier reparability might justify not enabling it.
Why is this a problem for us and not for ordinary dummies on Android? It's been the default there for years already.
Phones make the encryption invisible to the user.
That’s not the case on Linux unless you’re willing to put in a bit of work to set up TPM unlocking yourself or use one of the few distros that use TPM by default, like Aeon.
And even then Aeon’s not perfect. Sooner or later the TPM will fail and you’ll have to enter your long backup password and reenroll the TPM.
Yep. But typing in a password at boot is no big deal and you do then get some of the benefits of encryption. The problem, as you seem to be hinting, is the lockscreen issue. A screenlocked OS without the hardware encryption module is not actually locked down whereas Android, for instance, is. Is that right? I've wanted to ask how Android does this - basically, it loses the key and then regenerates it based on biometrics or whatever, each time you unlock, is that it?
Android backs up data to the cloud. If the phone breaks or gets stolen, you don't need to recover data from it - you can just pull it from Google's servers.
In addition, people tend to not treat their phones as "permanent storage". The concept of losing or breaking their phone is probably more clear, so they make sure to back it up in some way to the cloud or their desktop.
Also, it's much more likely for a phone to be stolen than a laptop or desktop.
Android has storage encryption by default?
Why do I only need to enter 1 password?
Why would you need to enter 2?
Well, usually you don't need to enter any password.
I'm referring to a password to unlock the screen.
That's because you're probably using biometrics instead.
How would I know? I don't have to use biometrics when I restart the phone.
Then your password or more likely PIN is what is being used to generate the encryption key. Not very strong encryption but better than nothing.