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[–] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 73 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

No Trump voter is casual unless they literally closed their eyes and scribbled randomly on the ballot

[–] NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world 103 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Of course there are. My neighbor is one. A simple minded idiot, conned by the lies and the cult of personality. But, if you talked to him, you'd never think for a second that he'd vote for Trump.

[–] dragontamer@lemmy.world 29 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Their eyes are still closed. Unless you walk up to that neighbor in the next day or so and show him the clip, he won't see it or believe it.

Hell, it's already too late and your neighbor is probably already making excuses about how Elon Musk is just sharing his hearts energy or some shit.

[–] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Then what? I must know more about OP's neighbor!

[–] Scubus@sh.itjust.works 14 points 3 days ago

Absolutely nothing changes. The "closed eyes" people are just as bad as the actual fascists, because they're enablers.

[–] Quadhammer@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (2 children)

It was a roman salute

Yeah okay

[–] dragontamer@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Look, the shitty excuses already began.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 days ago

In 2008 Polish court really acquitted three members of ONR, most prominent Polish neonazi organisation on exactly this excuse.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

Its a two party system and plenty of people looked at the options, decided "I'm going to vote for the least bad candidate", and went with Trump.

That's in part because Haris's campaign sucked shit (she spent more time on the trail with Liz Cheney than her own VP), in part because Biden's "booming" economy couldn't seemed to rectify the same escalating wealth imbalance we've been drowning in since Ford/Carter, in part because generations of voter disenfranchisement have stacked the deck against liberals, and in part because 15M D voters didn't show up between 2020 and 2024.

But the idea that "casual" voters of any strip don't exist really ignores how many Obama-Trump-Biden-Trump voters just flit in the wind based on however they're feeling at a given moment.

What's more, if the US has an underlying ideology, it tends toward fascism. Liberals don't want to grapple with that, so they end up offering up half-a-fascism to the moderate voter and telling the Radical Antifa Leftists to pound sand every four years.