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[–] Nomad@infosec.pub 6 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Not to be that person, but most people forget that the net worth oft these people is not liquid. They can not just wave a magic wand and give people money.

It's usually in shares of their very highly valued company which they can't give up because they wouldl give up control. Billionaires are not about money, they are about power.

What keeps you in power does not align with doing good. Thus the giving pledge exists, it allows giving away the money while you don't lose control in your lifetime.

Most billionaires do some kind of philanthropy. Gotta control where the money they would pay in taxes ends up. Even this is about power.

Their survival bias makes them believe that they know best what's good for the world. Taxing them would just increase their philanthropy, which is a good thing even though not perfect. Let's start somewhere.

[–] CorvidCawder@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 hour ago

That is the fallacious paper millionaire argument. They have more than enough liquidity, can take loans against their "non-liquid" wealth, and are anyway working with multi-year plans to sell assets and have enough liquidity. I believe this is also explained in https://mkorostoff.github.io/1-pixel-wealth/ and there they also explain that the US market cap is bigger than their stocks and so. So they could sell a lot in one go, of course losing "efficiency", but the market would be able to cope without any issue.

I think we are on the same side here judging from the rest of your comment, but I find it important to refute this typical argument, because it does not help that there is some sort of billionaire apologism by saying that they "don't actually have this money in their bank account to spend".

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

If a company is set up right from the start, you could have voting shares that aren't stock based, and that can be a way to maintain control of your company without hoarding the wealth via stock, but if it's not like that from the start, it would be very hard to make that change after the fact.

It'd probably be better if that was more common, but I still don't think they'd give up their shares worth money on the market, and then I still think these types of shares would have off market value?