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[–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 days ago (3 children)
  1. How did he pay all that money while in prison?
  2. Where are you getting your facts about Ross from besides your ass?
[–] potpotato@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

How does being in prison prohibit moving around assets?

[–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

This is incredibly stupid. Prison officials will do everything they can to prevent an inmate from moving around assets for VERY OBVIOUS reasons. But, after thinking about it, it may not be so obvious for this echo chamber so let me explain the obvious.

You are an inmate in prison. You made millions doing your illegal thing while free but you hare now doing hard time. You don't like hard time, you want easy or no time. How do you make your life better while in prison. Wait, you have millions. You'll just use that money to have your way with the guards and prison system. Guard giving you trouble? Use your assets that you've amassed to "get rid of them".

The prison system has protocols and processes in place to prevent all inmates from being able to control any assets they have on the outside. This prevents them from committing further crimes, exerting influence, or running an enterprise (criminal or legal) while incarcerated.

[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wardens do not have access to financial of prisoners. Why would you think that would be the case?

[–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They don't have access to an inmate's finances. But it may be against a prison's policy for an inmate to go into certain contracts. This is dependent on the inmate's conviction and each prison system. The prison also doesn't allow any privacy so running a business while in prison will be picked up and disciplinary action will be taken. The prison is supposed to protect the public from the inmate so it would look really bad if an inmate is running a business from prison. It can be a threat to the public and prison if they are able to control outside money from prison because then they could continue to commit crimes.

So yeah I warden doesn't have access to things like bank accounts or brokerage accounts but they control all forms of communication.

[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Where do you live? It’s as if you have literally no idea what you are talking about on any kind of level. Seriously you’re just incorrect.

[–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Where the hell do you live? Not gonna give up my address to you but I'm in America.

I know people who've been to prison. I've made those phone calls with them to handle finances. You say I'm wrong but won't say how. It's a fact that they monitor every phone call an inmate makes. It's a fact that inmates cannot give consent and thus cannot enter into contracts, something that running a business needs. They would have to do everything through someone legally representing them, typically a lawyer, and that's no guarantee that their representation would do thing that are illegal for them. The prison IS supposed to protect the public from the inmates, that's why they have guards. So how am I wrong?

[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Are you aware that inmates still can have contracts that they entered into before prison? Even if ypur claim that they couldn't sign new contracts made sense, which it doesn't because how do they hire new lawyers if needed, they could still be fulfilling old ones.

Ypu have been given tons of links by others that explicity prove your claims incorrect. It is ok to be wrong. You don't need to make false claims here.

[–] Spookyghost@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 day ago

Explain how I'm the naive one.

[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Again, I’m gonna suggest you look up lawyers and what they do.

Here’s some resources:

Lawyer (children’s edition)
Revocable Living Trust (apologies, but this one isn’t very kid friendly)
How prisons work (children’s edition)

[–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

You think a competent honest lawyer would risk their career doing something like bribing people with an inmate's money?

EDIT: Also how about you read what you linked and the thread you are replying to. The conversation was about being in control of your assets while in prison. A revocable living trust is primarily used in estate planning to determine who will get your property when you die. Now can you explain how an inmate can use a revocable trust to bribe a politician into pardoning them?

[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I present to you, Exhibit A:

EDIT: I really underestimated how much hand-holding you’d need through this:

READ

[–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Did you even read what I said?

You think a competent honest lawyer would risk their career doing something like bribing people with an inmate’s money?

How much hand holding do you need? Reading comprehension much?

[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Who said anything about competency and honesty? Look, I get that you’re here to defend your boy. But if we can keep the goalposts in place where they belong, it’ll really help move things along to their logical conclusion.

[–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Who said anything about competency and honesty?

I did in the post you were replying to. I didn't move the goal post because I stated that at the very beginning. And I'm not defending anyone (I assume you meant Trump). What I've been trying to say is it is unlikely that Ross bribed Trump to get the pardon and it far more likely that Trump was fulfilling his campaign promise to the Libertarian party.

[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

And I’m saying that people can absolutely move money from jail through lawyers.

[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Lawyers or anyone that has power of attorney can make payments on your behalf. How do you think people pay mortgages or make payments in jail?

[–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That is literally NOT the definition of a lawyer.

[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I never said it was. I specified who can make payments for you while you are serving time. The fact you think this can’t happen or that the prison has any involvement in this is really off

edit: It should say Lawyers OR not ir perhaps that’s the confusion?

[–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You edited your comment from what it was. I was replying to the original comment where you said something like Power of attorney makes someone an attorney.

[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

The edit explains my edit. I turned "ir" into "or".

[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world -1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)
  1. Lawyers and setting up trust funds.

  2. Try this website: