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[–] Bernie2028@midwest.social 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

At this point you really need to define what a “war” is

"a state of armed conflict between different nations or states or different groups within a nation or state"

Key word, "between." You can't have a war if no one declares war.

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You can't have a war if no one declares war

Are you just fucking with us now? Is this a bit?

I've seen at least one other person gently remind you of the last 70 years of US history. Are you just being a troll at this point?

I worded my question explicitly so as to make you think about this. Can you please try to?

[–] eatmyass@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Two states fighting against each other for the other state’s territory or resources is not a war unless they declare war?

[–] Bernie2028@midwest.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Mexico wouldn't be fighting back in this case (which is obviously bad, I'm just speaking semantically).

[–] eatmyass@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Right, but we’re just talking in the abstract. You have a definition of war, I’m asking if there is a conventional war, one state opposing another site, trying to gain the other’s resources or territory - you don’t consider this a war unless both countries explicitly declare war on the other?

[–] Bernie2028@midwest.social 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

you don’t consider this a war unless both countries explicitly declare war on the other?

An invasion sure, but not technically a war.

[–] eatmyass@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago

Ok, then I guess I have no response. I disagree, but I doubt either of us is going to convince the other. I will just say, if something is functionally a war I believe it should be considered a war, regardless of if the parties to the conflict are calling it that.

[–] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 1 year ago

I’m curious if you extend that to the Russia-Ukraine conflict too…