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[–] Nadru@lemmy.world 98 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Stealing from thieves is not theft

[–] admin@lemmy.my-box.dev 28 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yes it is. Although I personally have far less moral objections to it.

To elaborate:
OpenAI scraped data without permission, and then makes money from it.

Deepseek then used that data (even paid openai for it), trained a model on that data, and then releases that model for anyone to use.

While it's still making use of "stolen data" (that's a whole semantics discussion I won't get into right now), I find it far more noble than the former.

[–] harsh3466@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 day ago

Came to say something similar. Like I give a fuck that OpenAI's model/tech/whatever was "stolen" by Deepseek. Fuck that piece of shit Sam Altman.

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 2 points 1 day ago

"Recieving stolen goods" is prosecutable.

It's a lesser crime than the original theft though.