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This also depends on what kind of roads you have to walk on - highways suck for nighttime walks, because not only are you constantly on edge to try not to get run over, you also need to walk for miles to get anywhere.
Suburbs are nicer, but the best is to walk in a park, but that raises your chances of getting murdered by a lot so idk
I don't know where I was going with this. I lost my train of thought.
Is this a vibes-based take of do you actually have any stats on the matter?
Fwiw, the best is hands down a walk in a still kind of crowded city center. Few things bring as much security as eyes on the street
Easy solution: bring a bear. Much less chance of being murdered, and the bear gets to shit in the woods. Well, park, but close enough.
Until your bear meets RFK jr in the park
Instructions unclear, hid roadkill bear in Central Park
Easy solution: live in a safe country! We have no fears of night walks in Canada.
Unless you're indigenous, then there's a risk...
In all of Canada? Every city? All of Toronto and Vancouver? Wow I'm impressed that rape, murder and assault never happen there.
Compared to the US, yes it is much much safer here. I would be scared to walk late night downtown ANYWHERE in US cities. Here, that's never been a problem.
I'm going out on a limb and saying you're not a woman. There's no place on earth I could say I'd never feel unsafe walking alone at night. Although I'm less nervous in my own neighborhood in Los Angeles, just because it's familiar.
I did delve into your history to check before I spoke. I now know a lot more about Myanmar, (which was fascinating and took me so far back into your posts as to get creepy, my apologies ) and the NFL, and btw you're doing great at adding content to Lemmy, but the only posts about women's issues were the Toronto Tempo and one about abortion pill access that's consistent with your sound views on the present shithole US administration, and you didn't add any personal comments to.
That's kinda creepy. I don't have to go out on a limb to say you've never been to Canada while I've been to the biggest cities in the US. I live in Toronto. While I am a man I know a lot of women in my life who walk at night DOWNTOWN. And nobody would tell them they are insane to do that. It's not an issue here. It behooves me that you all assume the world is like the US. It isn't. Yes there are bad places to not walk at night - certain ghettos for instance, or a certain small city in the prairies with a reputation. The large ones - Toronto, Vancouver, Montreal in most parts are safe for both genders. Come and visit us sometime. Summer is better.
I have been to Canada twice, Quebec and Toronto, and I wouldn't walk alone at night in either.
Edit: I guess I would if I absolutely HAD to, but I'd be uncomfortable as fuck about it. And I wonder if your female friends are as casual about it as you believe.
That is a pity that your own bias and fears kept you indoors when nightlife in Quebec and Toronto are some of its best in the summer months. The street festivals? Such a shame you missed out on them because of your unfounded fears and holed up in your hotel. The streets would be teeming with people. The atmosphere electric. People walk around carefree and safe. It is a blessing to live like this.
Your fears are based on your own fears from your own country, not based on reality of our cities. Compare the crime rates there to here. Random muggings nor rapes just do not happen here. When they do, it's lead news here. The guns and the crimes of that US - we don't want to join the US. Not a chance. The life and realities are starkly different despite a common language and common colonial ancestry.
Economist has a safe cities index. Toronto ranks 2nd in the world as of the latest rankings. https://impact.economist.com/projects/safe-cities/ When it comes to violent crimes, Toronto's is almost half that of LA. https://www.thebesttoronto.com/which-is-best-toronto-or-la/
I know LA is worse, but I do feel safer in my neighborhood simply because it's familiar, so I'd spot trouble, and an escape route, more easily.
In your familiar territory, you feel that assaults on women "just do not happen here" because you haven't seen them personally.
Men don't even realize how much personal safety they take for granted simply because they aren't targets.
Even in a relatively safe city, it only takes one femicide if that woman is you.
And if a woman did go around with the attitude you're espousing and got raped or killed, a disgusting number of people would think, "she should have been more careful, she was asking for trouble."
I'm sure you're not that kind of guy. You seem like a good person. But your experience is not the same as any woman.
Even in Toronto.
The 184 murdered Canadian women of 2024 might disagree with you. Especially Indigenous women, 24% of the total. Of course some were murdered by their husbands/partners, probably not out walking, but the majority were killed by strangers or mere acquaintances.
This comment isn't about violence against women comment. This is about safety of walking at night in cities. So just because I say it's much safer to walk at night in Canada DOES NOT MEAN I AM DENYING VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN DOESN'T EXIST. Sheesh the logic of some.
Cops even take you on starlight tours. So safe.
Nah you're just sheltered.
Are you saying living in a safe country is bad? o.0
That's your problem. You're supposed to be walking, not riding a train...
My suburb neighborhood is filled with walkers and it is super unsafe at night. They decided when they built it that they didn't want to to create and maintain sidewalks and street lamps, so people always walk in the road and the only lights are the lamp posts at the end of people's driveways. And almost nobody wears reflectives, or carries lights or anything on their person. Particularly when you're blinded by an oncoming car's lights, it's nearly impossible to see people until you're right up on them.
It's so stupid and shortsighted. Living environments are not just the inside of our homes - it includes the outside, the neighbourhood, and the options you have to travel in and out of there. All of this together decide your quality of life inside your home.
Don’t for a second think it’s by accident. This was done to make areas less accessible to ‘undesirables’. After builders and realtors were told to stop forcing PoC into specific areas, they just went ahead and built suburbs that you basically had to have a car to access, ensuring poorer people were kept out.
You'll be fine if you just keep away from Assault Av., Murder Blvd., Rape roundabout and Stabbing St.
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