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[–] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org 5 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (5 children)

I believe Jesus taught tolerance and love

So that's what he meant when he said

34 “Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35 For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. 36 And a person's enemies will be those of his own household.

Matthew 10:34-36

or when he said:

“Whoever is not with me is against me, and whoever does not gather with me scatters."

Matthew 12:30

So tolerant and loving! 😍

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 13 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Matthew 10:34-36

Look at Matthew 26 (specifically 52) where Jesus stopped Peter from defending him with his sword. Jesus is opposed to violence, full stop.

The sword Jesus spoke of in Matthew 10 wasn't a literal sword. He's saying he's here to disrupt the status quo. Following him requires being at odds with the status quo (Jewish law), which is likely to result in being excluded from families and whatnot. He certainly doesn't condone violence, but he does acknowledge that this is a fork in the road and people need to pick sides, because they can't do both.

This similar idea is conveyed in Matthew 6:24 (replace "money" with anything else that stands between you and following God):

No one can serve two masters. Either you will hate the one and love the other, or you will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money.

Or Matthew 5:29:

If your right eye causes you to stumble, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell.

I also don't think he means you need to preemptively abandon your family, just that if you have to choose, choose God.

The same idea is true in secular ideology as well. If your family are Nazis, it's better to leave them than become a Nazi.

[–] angrystego@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago

They said they believe Jesus taught tolerance. They didn't say it's the ultimate fact just that they believe it. Of course you can find anything in the Bible. You can interpret the text in a hundred ways. There's no one true interpretation. You can just choose one to believe in that makes sense to you (or decide non of it is for you). I think sugar_in_your_tea has chosen a very positive interpretation.

Btw I love your user name!

[–] algorithmae@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Oh come on, I can see from a mile away that's it's a metaphor

[–] Lightor@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

How can you tell the difference between what should be interpreted as literal vs a metaphor?

[–] algorithmae@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 12 hours ago

Because 35-36 explains the metaphor in 34

[–] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org 0 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Sure like everything that is uncomfortable. Rest is literal. How convenient.

[–] algorithmae@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 16 hours ago

Now you're putting words in my mouth. You're arguing against the wrong person dude, chill

[–] nutsack@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago

i fucked god's asshole

[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 4 points 23 hours ago