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[–] takeheart@lemmy.world 79 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (3 children)

There's so many parts and pieces that all failed to get to where we are today. Each time you reflect a moment and realize that we shouldn't be be here in the first place:

  • The FBI // justice department shouldn't be a tool of personal revenge.
  • But wait Trump/Musk shouldn't have become presidents to begin with.
  • Voters should be educated and well informed enough to simply not vote for an autocrat.
  • Merrick Garland should never have become attorney general and even so Biden should have pressured him hard to do his job.
  • Trump should have been impeached multiple times already.
  • But the democrats too should have had a better alternative candidate.
  • The democrats should have had a real primary contest.
  • Biden should have never announced to run for another term out of the blue.
  • And his handlers shouldn't have tried to hide his frailty for so long.
  • If only Donald Trump should have been sentenced for his many crimes.
  • And he shouldn't have had the backing of the Republican party for this long.
  • Arguably voters should have realized he's inept the first time around.
  • The media shouldn't have sensationalized him as much when he first ran as a publicity stunt

The list is not exhaustive and goes on and on...

And in the background there's all the systemic failures and problems that enabled this: terrible public education, ignoring a large chunk of the electorate for too long, citizens united, social media and outrage culture, rampant disinformation and propaganda disguised as news, the electoral college and de facto 2 party system, too few checks and balances being hard codified, obvious loop holes like presidential pardons, ...

Petty sure historians will analyze this for generations. If we will still live in a world where historians are allowed to about their work freely.

[–] slickgoat@lemmy.world 5 points 13 hours ago

You make Supreme Court judges political appointees, all of this was always going to happen at some point.

All you needed was the right guy to pull the levers.

[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 49 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Petty sure historians will analyze this for generations

Historians have studied the rise to power of Hitler and the Nazis in, out, up, down and sideways for 92 years and it amounted to a big fat nothing, as here we are again, dealing with the exact same shit today.

Don't get your hopes high.

[–] Scott_of_the_Arctic@lemmy.world 24 points 19 hours ago

The majority of Germans thought Hitler was an idiot. It was the idiots who followed him who brought him to power. Just like maga. The fact is that a few generations from now another idiot fascist will rise to power and another group of people will be equally astonished at the stupidity of their voters.

It'll go something like: "Oh my god WTF are you thinking!?! He's doing exactly the same thing as trump and Hitler!! He's a fucking fascist!! He just did a fucking maga salute FFS !!!"

The problem is that the people who really need to learn from history don't see any need to. It's the idiots who repeat history and we have to sit here watching them stick their dick in a beehive, knowing that everyone is about to get stung.

[–] nnullzz@lemmy.world 9 points 20 hours ago

It’s at least helped those who seek that info be aware of the red flags and processes that took place to get them where they got.

[–] Woht24@lemmy.world 9 points 19 hours ago

The ultimate should have is, America should have got it's shit together somewhere in the last 20 years.