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What did we do? As if our governments aren’t US vassals? Yet you still demonize us. If Arab governments had any sway our governments wouldn’t be paying tributes and forced to normalize with Israel and host US troops.
The only foreign country that controls US politics and bought US politicians from both major parties is Israel. https://www.opensecrets.org/industries/summary?cycle=All&ind=Q05&recipdetail=S
Iran, for one example, is a prolific cybersecurity adversary of the USA. One of the top four advesaries alongside China, North Korea and Russia. In fact, Iran is believed to be responsible for disclosing a CIA covert channel to China which led to a critical dismantling of CIA assets. I don't know as much about other Arab states because Iran is most famous for its advanced cyber-warfare capabilities, but honestly, to avoid exploiting the USA would be very foolish.
Obviously this goes both ways. Israel and the USA are infamous for Stuxnet, a computer virus which reportedly destroyed a fifth of Iran's nuclear centrifuges in the early 2000s.
I just want to confirm that you know that Iranians are not Arabs. Linguistically they are closer to Europeans and Indians.
Sorry, you are correct. I assumed the person you replied to was talking about the whole Middle East region and didn't think twice for posting.
Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates and Egypt have been caught spying on the US (or US citizens) from what I know
Dude, America has spied on even its allies. The bar is pretty low, here.
Saudi Arabia is allegedly spying on Saudis abroad including in the US. Specifically government critics on social media. Saudi Arabia allegedly spied on its citizens in the US through a network flaw
This is bad and probably violates US laws. But it wasn’t targeting the US or US citizens. Meanwhile, Israel is targeting the US and US citizens: Israel Has Long Spied on U.S., Say Officials
‘New NSA document highlights Israeli espionage in US’
Next time a blonde haired blue eyed British man named Lawrence comes asking you to rebel against the Ottomans you'll think twice, huh
There were legitimate grievances, but most Arabs did not rebel against the Ottomans. In fact many more died fighting for it. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2004/1/14/the-forgotten-arabs-of-gallipoli
The Saudis did not give the Jared billions for nothing. Just remember, the Saudis and Israelis told Bush to invade Iraq and next up is Iran with Putin's Sock Puppet in charge. It will be a massive cluster fuck.
Leaders in the region fear that the US will turn their countries into another Iraq so they pay up. Don’t confuse tributes for bribes.
Saudi Arabia opposed the invasion of Iraq. It was Netanyahu that went to congress and sold the war to them.
Saudi Arabia’s Steadfast Opposition to the Invasion of Iraq
https://www.washingtonpost.com/made-by-history/2023/03/17/iraq-saudi-arabia-saddam-hussein/
Crap, I should have typed the 1st Gulf War and Bush Sr. You are correct about the 2nd invasion, the Saudis did not want Iraq fractured and the Shite's gaining power through Iran.
In the first Gulf War it was out of necessity. Iraqi troops invaded Kuwait and Saudi Arabia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Khafji
Even today, other than wealth, Saudi Arabia is a much smaller country than Iraq with half its population -Saudi Arabia's population figures are inflated since over 40% are foreigners-. In 1991 Iraq was much stronger, and much more self sufficient, it could have taken Saudi Arabia in days if it weren't for the coalition forces.
That's not inflated, they're still part of the population...
Maybe they don't count temporary residents like students and foreign worker permit holders?
Also can they likely can't be drafted / join their army?
Yeah I guess they wouldn't be given dog tags or a gun etc, they'd just be given a shovel or similar 😅
You say that as if Iran hasn't been financing uprisings, Turkey isn't openly affectionate with multiple opposing world powers, and as if Afghanistan didn't fall into chaos literally as the USA were leaving.