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[–] Pamasich@kbin.earth 7 points 1 day ago (3 children)

But if you're tracking, datamining, or selling my data then there's the problem.

And that's easier on the fediverse than any other social media platform. It's the downside of the federation aspect. Lemmy doesn't need to have this stuff built in, anyone can just track and datamine and sell data as they please from anywhere. And I think it's foolish to think Meta at least isn't already doing that, considering they are well aware of the fediverse and how it works. But others are probably already on it too.

[–] kernelle@0d.gs 13 points 1 day ago

And that's easier on the fediverse than any other social media platform

This seems to be a big misunderstanding, if we're talking votes and participation then you are right, but participating data is but a fraction of the data collected by all other forms of social media. Websites can track:

  • Login and usage times
  • Ip addresses
  • Every single action that is made, clicked, viewed, etc

And with apps they track

  • Notification data
  • Local network
  • User behaviour
  • User engagement
  • And depending on the given permissions much more

I own my instance, therefore I own the all of the data that could be tracked. Yes my participation is synced with the entire Fediverse, but nothing about my usage and behaviour is.

[–] meldrik@lemmy.wtf 12 points 1 day ago

Let’s say we create a new Lemmy server, for the purpose of illegally datamining users data. What data can we get?

  • Public up/down votes
  • Public messages posted in communities.
  • DMs if send to a user on our Lemmy server.
  • ??

Do we have the users IP? Email? Browser fingerprint? Can we use cookies to track the user?

[–] fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Oh i agree. Though i think it's less likely to happen here (might not be for long though, nowhere is safe :( )

Edit I was talking about data like IP addresses, and cookies. I feel it's fine that admins can see what you do on your account since it kind of has to be public.