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Cross posting this here for visibility as it's easy to not see the edit. They are adding thoughts and resources to the post as they evolve so maybe keep an eye out for future edits.

I think the questions they have are very reasonable & they have welcomed cis people to discuss on the post (but not elsewhere on the subreddit)

I'm new to Lemmy and doing what I can. Long time member of the subreddit. Maybe some of you all are better than me at discussing these topics with them?

Thank you all for your help so far 🫶

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[–] bayesianbandit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 23 hours ago (21 children)
[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 5 points 23 hours ago (18 children)

Sorry for the double reply!

Done. If anyone here notices some mistake from my part, please do tell me, and I'll promptly fix it.

[–] bayesianbandit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

idk why I can't view it :( maybe caught in a spam filter on Reddit's side

[–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Can't see it either

@lvxferre@mander.xyz , did you add any links? That could indeed trigger Reddit spam filter

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 3 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

I did ;_; I completely forgot how Reddit works in this regard. I hope that HiddenStill can still see it as a mod.

In case they don't, I'll copypaste the content here:


I don't claim to have "expert knowledge" on Lemmy, but I was discussing the topic there with one of the users of this sub (hi bayesianbandit!), and I've been in Lemmy for long enough (2021) to know a few things about it.

Can Lemmy can scale to the size required if trans content was banned on reddit.

Lemmy as a network can scale indefinitely. Even if a specific instance is reaching its limit, people can create new instances to split the load.

So the problem is mostly if the "transgender surgeries instance" would be able to handle the load, and how much it would cost. Accordingly to this link, "the 10 biggest Lemmy servers still only have hosting costs of $50-$300/mo".

I couldn't find much information on Lemmy's moderation tools. Currently this sub attracts a lot of hate and chasers, which moderation easily takes care of. In the past the have been excessive amounts, but reddit has cracked down on it, and provides tools to limit it (not very good ones). Lemmy would be unusable without this.

The official mod tools are awful and only suited for small communities. However larger instances developed a few third party mod tools to alleviate the burden, including an AutoMod of sorts.

Lemmy also allows something called "defederation", where users from one instance cannot interact with users from another instance. The nearest of that in Reddit would be if you were able to prevent all users who posted in a subreddit to post in yours. That helps wonders to keep haters at bay.

Lemmy works by sharing data across multiple instances (computers) and it appears there seem to be privacy concerns about the amount of data on users that is shared. / What is to stop the owners of the instance shutting it down, or the data being lost for any other reason? Although not a corporate it makes no difference. There would be a massive loss of knowledge and history.

The main concern is that data shared with one instance pops up in other instances, due to the federation. That's both a liability and a feature - because if the original instance goes down, the data is still preserved in the other instances.

[–] bayesianbandit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

That's an awesome response tbh and clears up some of my questions I didn't even know I had too

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Thanks.

And... like, Lemmy is not perfect. We got a small userbase, official mod tools are shitty, so goes on, the points HiddenStill raised are all valid. But the way that things are going, I genuinely feel like the community will be safer (or at least less unsafe) here than in Reddit.

[–] bayesianbandit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah I agree. It’s progress and personally I’m very impressed by lemmy. It feels good to get connected with people who are charting paths forward in this environment.

It sucks but historically trans people have always been a bit underground by necessity and needing to find solutions outside the mainstream (in the case of the fediverse maybe one day it will be mainstream). And a lot of us do work in tech, can help those who aren’t as savvy out. We were always active on irc and Usenet back in the day

I think at the end of the day it’s good we’re working on this now because if things go downhill fast we can minimize our losses

[–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 18 hours ago

s progress and personally I’m very impressed by lemmy. It feels good to get connected with people who are charting paths forward in this environment.

Happy to hear!

[–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (2 children)

It's the mention to Lemmy.world.

I would retry posting another comment with this link: https://lemmy.zip/post/88530/205136

Just to make sure HiddenStill sees it

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 2 points 22 hours ago

Reddit autohides posts that mention Lemmy.world?

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 2 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Still no deal, when I open it in a private window: https://old.reddit.com/r/Transgender_Surgeries/comments/1ik1o02/the_future_of_this_sub/mc330ur/

I used the lemmy.zip link you've provided. I feel like the issue isn't the link, but new account in a subreddit that likely has pretty high filters.

Well, worst hypothesis if HiddenStill doesn't see it, I hope that other people can relay that info.

[–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 22 hours ago (2 children)
[–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 21 hours ago (1 children)
[–] bayesianbandit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Thanks! She’s submitted an application to join blahaj and I’ve also pointed her to this post

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 3 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Damn.

Well, let's hope they sees it. Trying it even further might increase her mod workload.

[–] bayesianbandit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

She’s submitted an application to blahaj to join and I pointed her to this thread

[–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 22 hours ago

I'll post it just to make sure

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