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AOC is now old enough to run for president. I can see her running in 2028 and getting the grassroots support that Bernie enjoyed.
If anyone can get the youth out to vote she can. they need to focus hard on getting people registered though.
I also really REALLY hope she doesn't campaign with a fucking Cheney
I thought I saw AOC calling out how bad an idea that was, back when Harris did it, so I don't expect her to make the same mistake
https://www.newsweek.com/aoc-liz-cheney-harris-campaign-trump-1976031
Aw shit, I hadn't seen that.
My read on that statement is "I think this is a bad idea but in-fighting is the last thing we need right now if we want to avoid a Trump presidency."
That’s my take as well
Afraid of competition on who can beat the republicans perhaps?
Calling it out harder publicly during the election would have just made a Trump presidency more likely. It's similar to how Sanders shut up after Hillary stole the primary and threw his full weight behind her train wreck or a campaign.
People who actually give a shit don't want Trump to win and will do whatever they can to keep that from happening.
Yeah that played out great in 2016 and 2024...
Of course infighting is bad if it escalates. But candidates who are completely detached from reality, need a reality check.
If the Democrats hadn't waited until Summer to acknowledge what everyone saw with their own eyes, Biden being mentally declined well past the point of doing another 4 years, they could have built a proper campaign with a properly primaried candidate. But the oligarchy doesnt want that, because then topics like cost of living, housing health care and US funded genocide become topics for the Democratic base too.
And after Biden came the trainwreck of the Harris campaign. No Charisma, no political character, embracing the oligarchs coming out in support of her and finally closing the coffin with fucking war criminals Cheneys.
She was old enough during the last election as well.
aye, but there were no Democratic primaries in the last election
How about that.
They'll never allow AOC to win, just like they didn't allow Bernie.
With enough support they won’t have the power to choose. It’s an uphill battle but one that we can win.
If there's no primaries, no amount of support matters.
And if frogs had wings they wouldn't bump their ass when they jumped.
As far as I can tell there is no legal requirement for a party to run a primary. If I am missing something I am more than willing to amend my opinion.
You are correct. That was a key part of the DNC defense in Sanders vs the DNC when they shafted him last time, in 2017. They are a private corporation with no responsibily to hold a fair primary. They argued that themeslve and won, so its estblished precedent now, and they know it.
https://observer.com/2017/05/dnc-lawsuit-presidential-primaries-bernie-sanders-supporters/
We do have the technology to grow wings on frogs now.
Granted the DNC "changed the rules" but are you forgetting the super-delegates overruling the majority votes in the primaries in 2016?
Looking at how shitty the democrats are now, they don’t have the ability to stop her.
She just needs to win the working class. There are far, far more of us than the elitist snobs currently running the show on both sides of the aisle.
In today's political climate, I think that's unfortunately true. It would take some drastic outreach, Obama levels of outreach and more, plus a ton of money to change peoples biases and opinions (again, as of today).
So watch them run a pair of old white men, or find another member of the Clinton family that hasn't had a go yet.
Well if we cant get Chelsea Clintin we can tap Hunter Biden right.
On a more serious note though, I would be comfortable with Michelle Obama from the getgo if she ran. I dont think she'd be easily controlled by the party. She had no time for their bullshit even when Obama was leading the party.
She might be a popular option but she doesn't want the job.
Kerry/Manchin.
I personally would prefer a Bernie/AOC ticket, with Bernie giving a public contract that allows her to have him resigned if his mind starts going. IMO, it would be ideal if we could get 16 years of Bernie/AOC, and more if they can raise worthy successors.
Bernie will be 87 in 2028. Unfortunately i think Bernies chance at the presidency has been and gone. AOC/Walz would be nice. Walz proved him self to be likable in the Harris campaign but he doesn't have the profile that AOC does despite arguably having more experience
Walz is the "Israel has the right to expand its borders" guy so you'd have to make him keep his mouth shut over Israel, but fair enough.
He ticks the old white guy box so the racists and sexists can feel okay voting for them while still being left enough to not be too much of a drag on the resulting administration
The biggest hurdle for AOC is she's a woman. She is an attractive woman, so that's beneficial, but I think America has made it abundantly clear that we are happy being misogynistic assholes that can't trust women with important decisions.
Can we pleas stop repeating this narrative? Hillary lost because she is an evil ghoul. Harris lost because she kept saying how she will continue the work of Biden who equally is an evil ghoul. And Harris invited Cheney to campaign with her, who is the father of evil ghouls in the 21. Century US politics.
There is countries more conservative than the US, where women have been Presidents, Prime Ministers and Chancellors.
Far right and Nazis also dont have an issue with women leaders any more when it comes to elections. Look at Le Pen in France, Meloni in Italy and Weidel in Germany. Ffs Weidel is the nazi candidate in Germany and she is in a lesbian marriage with an Asian immigrant and raises two adopted children.
Gender has nothing to do with Harris loss and this narrative is kept being peddled to not face why people are alienated by her political program, character and donors.
They are more ok with women when those women are on their side.
You're correct that Hilary was awful and Kamala was uninspiring, but that's still glossing over the fact that they both lost to Donald Fucking Trump, and Kamala did so with the benefit of hindsight.
And she took that hindsight and ignored it
We told her how to win. She needed the working class. Instead she tried to win suburban wine moms and “sane” republicans.
America will vote for a woman if that woman doesn’t look down on them. Harris lost at that rally where she shouted down protesters with “I’m speaking”. She told us all she wasn’t listening.
Then maybe they shouldn't have run awful people.
The party pilloried Sanders in 2020 because he allegedly said the same thing to Warren. Now, since the party doesn't want to run AOC because they hate anyone to the left of Dick Goddamned Cheney now, suddenly the electorate isn't ready for a woman? Fuck that. Democratic voters no longer want yet another status quo military industrial corpodem.
Repeat yourself.
Notice how none of those are America? Evil ghouls but somehow evil men get voted in no problem? America well never vote in a Woman sorry.
I think this ignores just how uninspiring Hillary and Kamala were.
Neither really spoke to the working class
You're correct that Hilary was awful and Kamala was uninspiring, but that's still glossing over the fact that they both lost to Donald Fucking Trump, and Kamala did so with the benefit of hindsight.
Really just ctr+c/v'd your own comment, huh?
Yes?
Huh... Just thought it was odd.
You're making me feel like I need to punch more sexists that I find. I'm really liking the idea of identifying as a fucking problem these days.
Gender has absolutely nothing to do with it. She is neoliberal garbage like the rest of the party
She's another dnc sheepdog like Bernie.