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Observing American politics feels really strange at the moment (lemm.ee)
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As an outsider (I live in Belgium) it feels very weird and dystopian to see everything happening in American politics with Trump and Musk.

On one side, it's very interesting and almost entertaining; on the other side, it's scary. I can't imagine what it must be like to live in the USA.

Americans, how do you cope? What's your take on the situation?

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[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

People have just started to realize after 50 years that both major parties, and our system undermines the formation of a third major party, stand with the robber barons against needs of the people while stoking social division to protect the robber barons from reprisal.

Kinda demoralizing. Especially considering all the "Herp derp Freedom" kool-aid poured down our throats from birth.

[–] pet1t@lemm.ee 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Can I offer you our political system with 6 governments?

[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

If you're offering me a closet to live in over there where people act like a society then yes, yes, a thousand times yes.

This is exploitation, antisocial hell. We aren't a society so much as a gaggle of rugged individuals at each other's throats for ever dwindling oligarch scraps. There is no hope here, no community, only tribal division and hatred stoked 24/7 by for profit media, with intentionally poor public education that doesn't teach basic critical thinking or reasoning that leaves most unable to separate the propaganda from reality.

[–] pet1t@lemm.ee 5 points 3 months ago

There's a society here, yes! Be my guest!

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

I used to be really frustrated with 2 party systems. Now I realize that each party is a coalition of special interest groups that only care about their narrow special interests and otherwise vote the party line on everything else.

Multi-party PR systems like Israel are basically the same thing, except the coalitions are explicit instead of informal. You vote for your favourite special interest party and they join a coalition to represent that interest but otherwise vote the “party line” on everything else.